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General Talk => Non-member Requests => Topic started by: Jazzbob on October 01, 2013, 04:24:54 AM



Title: application
Post by: Jazzbob on October 01, 2013, 04:24:54 AM
Dear members of the high Galactic Council!

This is my application for a membership in the Galactic Council. I would like to join this reputable circle of active players to incorporate into it.
 
Please let me know, if the Council comes to a decision about my concern.

Jazzbob
Imperial Trade Organisation [ITO]


Title: Re: application
Post by: sargas on October 01, 2013, 03:41:49 PM
I, for one, think y'all will make a good addition to the GC


Title: Re: application
Post by: JamJulLison on October 01, 2013, 05:05:08 PM
I for one wouldn't have a problem with it. Your corp seems to be getting better and we could use some fresh blood in the GC.


Title: Re: application
Post by: Jazzbob on October 05, 2013, 07:59:15 AM
So I have to wait for the reaction of the IMG, right?


Title: Re: application
Post by: JamJulLison on October 05, 2013, 11:59:41 AM
Yes. I think Aysle has been a little busy lately so please be patient.  I know it sucks waiting.


Title: Re: application
Post by: Dadds on October 06, 2013, 05:49:40 AM
As a member of the GC, i have no ill bearings or feelings to the inclusion to [ITO] To keep it official though, I need to wait for my representative to make an appearance. He has been gone a little while now but i am sure he will be back with us soon.


Title: Re: application
Post by: sargas on October 06, 2013, 04:47:35 PM
let's not wait too long for this.  Dadds, you have already said that you have the final vote for IMG (I have no problem with it).  

...We need to admit new corporations to show the interstellar community that we are not just an 'Old Boys Club'...


Title: Re: application
Post by: Dadds on October 08, 2013, 08:30:19 AM
i think based on current concerns regarding the current makeup of the Galactic Council and its inability to make a decision, all decisions from this office are suspended for now.


Title: Re: application
Post by: JamJulLison on October 08, 2013, 08:59:35 AM
i think based on current concerns regarding the current makeup of the Galactic Council and its inability to make a decision, all decisions from this office are suspended for now.

We aren't the ones having issues making decisions. Our decision regards to Raph has been posted already.  Don't go all US Government on us now and shut down just cause you don't like certain things.  PMI is still in full support of the GC and our offices shall remain open.


Title: Re: application
Post by: sargas on October 08, 2013, 05:59:10 PM
i think based on current concerns regarding the current makeup of the Galactic Council and its inability to make a decision, all decisions from this office are suspended for now.

what is this?

are you saying that because there is only two of three voting members present, all other GC business is suspended?
 
this is a vote to increase membership to four corporations (which will give us, at this point three voting members)


Title: Re: application
Post by: Dadds on October 15, 2013, 03:38:56 PM
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We aren't the ones having issues making decisions. Our decision regards to Raph has been posted already.  Don't go all US Government on us now and shut down just cause you don't like certain things.  PMI is still in full support of the GC and our offices shall remain open.
We arent "taking our bat and ball and going home" because we cant get things our own way. What i am saying is (and this also includes Sargas' question in this matter) that if i want something fixed or approved, that goes against PMI thoughts and wishes (and its well known that we have always been at opposite ends of the poles) then there is no effective government. So from mour perspective, and with my rep away on extended leave, at this time we will not be looking at making any decisions on any applications or submissions for the foreseeable future.
With regards specifically to piracy, our policy has always been firmly against it and as such we feel requests to deal with pirates through the GC will fall on deaf ears, if the only set of ears listening happen to be harbourers of pirates and has a piracy policy. Therefore in the matters of piracy and pirate acts, we feel the GC cannot come to any aggreement on this issue, so revert to our old-fashioned, tried and tested, "if its a pirate, shoot it down"
I am taking matters into consideration with regards to voting and authority to vote, and i or my designated rep will inform the GC of our decisions after my internal reviews are complete.
I suspect all this will become clearer once i can get our rep, Aysle to respond to the GC with a statement from this office.


Title: Re: application
Post by: JamJulLison on October 15, 2013, 04:08:17 PM
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We aren't the ones having issues making decisions. Our decision regards to Raph has been posted already.  Don't go all US Government on us now and shut down just cause you don't like certain things.  PMI is still in full support of the GC and our offices shall remain open.
We arent "taking our bat and ball and going home" because we cant get things our own way. What i am saying is (and this also includes Sargas' question in this matter) that if i want something fixed or approved, that goes against PMI thoughts and wishes (and its well known that we have always been at opposite ends of the poles) then there is no effective government. So from mour perspective, and with my rep away on extended leave, at this time we will not be looking at making any decisions on any applications or submissions for the foreseeable future.
With regards specifically to piracy, our policy has always been firmly against it and as such we feel requests to deal with pirates through the GC will fall on deaf ears, if the only set of ears listening happen to be harbourers of pirates and has a piracy policy. Therefore in the matters of piracy and pirate acts, we feel the GC cannot come to any aggreement on this issue, so revert to our old-fashioned, tried and tested, "if its a pirate, shoot it down"
I am taking matters into consideration with regards to voting and authority to vote, and i or my designated rep will inform the GC of our decisions after my internal reviews are complete.
I suspect all this will become clearer once i can get our rep, Aysle to respond to the GC with a statement from this office.


I thinking letting this corp in though could help us on our balance issues. Your right many times we are on opposite ends. But that doesn't mean we don't agree on issues.  Take Raph for example. While it took us a while to come to a decision we ended up agreeing with you. Though the reason some of our people didn't want to add him to the outlaw list was because the only one he had been harassing was IMG and not going and blowing up anyone elses stuff. It could be said it was a matter between your 2 corps.  I on the other hand saw it as an act of terrorism against not just IMG but the entire GC. His actions on the forums seems to back all that up.  Just because I can be understanding on issues on piracy doesn't mean I won't stand up to it when it isn't even about making a profit. I also won't say anything if you guys go after pirates who do go after profit as long as it is outside the sol system or if someone reports them in the act of acting them in Sol and you manage to catch them then.  Also honestly until Aysle gets back full time I think you should take charge of your corp's GC stuff. We don't need semi-active representatives.


Title: Re: application
Post by: Dadds on October 18, 2013, 03:54:41 PM
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I thinking letting this corp in though could help us on our balance issues. Your right many times we are on opposite ends. But that doesn't mean we don't agree on issues.  Take Raph for example. While it took us a while to come to a decision we ended up agreeing with you. Though the reason some of our people didn't want to add him to the outlaw list was because the only one he had been harassing was IMG and not going and blowing up anyone elses stuff. It could be said it was a matter between your 2 corps.  I on the other hand saw it as an act of terrorism against not just IMG but the entire GC. His actions on the forums seems to back all that up.  Just because I can be understanding on issues on piracy doesn't mean I won't stand up to it when it isn't even about making a profit. I also won't say anything if you guys go after pirates who do go after profit as long as it is outside the sol system or if someone reports them in the act of acting them in Sol and you manage to catch them then.  Also honestly until Aysle gets back full time I think you should take charge of your corp's GC stuff. We don't need semi-active representatives.
With Admiral Raphael that was part of my point. When someone is attacking into a GC declared and approved holding, then that is an attack against the whole GC ruling. There shouldnt have been any hesitation because "its not happening to us" Just because it was in our neck of the woods didnt mean that it was my trash to take out. (now i have a large pile of trash filling up my industrial bins to dispose of)
With regards to our rep Aysle, if i dont hear from him by the end of my weekend gone i will motion towards taking the chair in the GC for our corp representation and then proceedings can again resume. He is welcome to take it back should i assume the position whenever he feels fit and ready to continue active duties


Title: Re: application
Post by: sargas on October 18, 2013, 10:11:19 PM
With Admiral Raphael that was part of my point. When someone is attacking into a GC declared and approved holding, then that is an attack against the whole GC ruling. There shouldnt have been any hesitation because "its not happening to us" Just because it was in our neck of the woods didnt mean that it was my trash to take out. (now i have a large pile of trash filling up my industrial bins to dispose of)

You may recall that PMI (JABBERWOCK, GYPSY QUEEN, and RATTLESNAKE) took part in the defense of Saturn. 


Title: Re: application
Post by: Dadds on October 19, 2013, 02:57:44 AM
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You may recall that PMI (JABBERWOCK, GYPSY QUEEN, and RATTLESNAKE) took part in the defense of Saturn.
Yes i hadnt forgotten Sargas. What i refer to was the initial vote against putting Raphael up as an outlaw because it was only affecting me at Saturn. My initial request was turned down so legally all i could really do is wait for him to attack me before i could do anything about him. That is why Aysle came back out and declared all pirates will die. It was only then that PMI had a backflip and decided to go with my initial request, which was when the Jabberwock et al. became involved.
So when i am referring to a GC member not being supported by its fellow council corporations, that is what i was referring to. Your initial stance was to let me deal with it as a personal matter, where i was declaring it was an attack against the GC hitting us at Sol at our home base.


Title: Re: application
Post by: Jazzbob on October 19, 2013, 05:53:40 AM
Dear members of the high Galactic Council, please don't forget about my application, even if raph makes some trouble in the galaxy.

 :)


Title: Re: application
Post by: JamJulLison on October 19, 2013, 11:49:37 AM
I haven't forgotten.  The hold up on this is IMG. lol


Title: Re: application
Post by: Dadds on October 19, 2013, 08:41:01 PM
IMG will have a resolution on this before EOD AEST.


Title: Re: application
Post by: JamJulLison on October 22, 2013, 03:12:18 PM
From how it sounds everyone is ok with it though there isn't much official word from IMG on this.   I am going to go ahead and call for a vote.  PMI Votes yes to letting ITO join the GC.


Title: Re: application
Post by: Dadds on October 24, 2013, 05:06:32 PM
If it is OK with the council members, I will stand in as proxy for our rep and vote "yes" to include ITO within its council membership. I dont recall specifically, but i do remember some talk about a "trial" period before becoming a full member suggested by one of the PMI or NHC members, so we would like to put in a proviso for a review of this decision in a couple of weeks, if it so pleases the rest of the voting, active members


Title: Re: application
Post by: JamJulLison on October 24, 2013, 05:22:37 PM
If he hadn't had to wait I would have said a trial membership may be fine. But look how long he was kept waiting. I say just give ITO full membership.


Title: Re: application
Post by: Fenix on October 24, 2013, 06:39:32 PM
Idk if Jazz talked to you guys but I thought I would mention it on here just in case. Jazz is on vacation starting today and will be back Monday. It sounded like he isn't going to have any internet access during that time.

*Clarification: He is on vacation starting Friday, but he is ahead of my time at least over in Europe so that is like a few hours from now, idk if he will pop on this morning or not as he didn't say if he would.


Title: Re: application
Post by: JamJulLison on October 24, 2013, 06:49:36 PM
Thanks for letting us know.


Title: Re: application
Post by: sargas on October 24, 2013, 07:02:03 PM
Congratulations to ITO regarding their acceptance into the GC. 

All they need to do now is appoint a voting representative and to sign the Charter.


Title: Re: application
Post by: Dadds on October 25, 2013, 04:11:01 PM
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If he hadn't had to wait I would have said a trial membership may be fine. But look how long he was kept waiting. I say just give ITO full membership
I only suggest this proviso because i have not been able to discuss our thoughts with my members prior to voting. However, i was against the initial concept of trial membership in the first instance and i am still boss around here anyway at IMG (yep still got the shirt labelled "boss"), so its all good, so be it.
Someone of the moderation committee needs to petition Sir Emi for inclusion of their (ITO) rep when they choose one, that is.


Title: Re: application
Post by: JamJulLison on October 25, 2013, 04:16:37 PM
I will get on it later.  Somehow I doubt he reads these post lol


Title: Re: application
Post by: Jazzbob on October 27, 2013, 02:51:27 PM
Dear high council,

I would like to thank you for confiding in the ITO! As the Leader of the ITO I'll be the voting representative and so the Imperial Trade Organisation accepts the Galactic Council Charter!

Jazzbob
Leader - Imperial Trade Organisation


Title: Re: application
Post by: JamJulLison on October 28, 2013, 10:03:24 AM
Sorry I haven`t gotten around to messaging emi. Having technical difficulties. Dadds has been informed of them. Dadds would you be so kind as to pm emi of jazzbobs new status.


Title: Re: application
Post by: Jazzbob on October 31, 2013, 05:49:06 AM
I'll sign the Galactic Council Charter as soon as possible. At the moment my statement
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As the Leader of the ITO I'll be the voting representative and so the Imperial Trade Organisation accepts the Galactic Council Charter!
has to be valid for my agreement. If Sir Emi will give the new staus to me, i sign it into the topic!


Title: Re: application
Post by: sargas on October 31, 2013, 11:41:14 PM
I agree, Jazzbob...


Title: Re: application
Post by: sargas on November 03, 2013, 11:08:21 PM
has this been taken care of?


Title: Re: application
Post by: Jazzbob on November 04, 2013, 05:27:14 AM
No it isnt. I can still only read the Charter or the other topics...

Sir Emi!?


Title: Re: application
Post by: JamJulLison on November 04, 2013, 06:58:12 AM
Its hard for me to pm anyone cause my pc is down. Stuck using my dsi


Title: Re: application
Post by: Dadds on December 13, 2013, 07:28:07 AM
Unfortunately, i dont have the political clout either to partition Sir Emi because i am not the rep here either. I am a pretty important member however lol. i will partition Sir Emi to make the following changes if its ok with the rest of the GC. That I will, from now until further notice, take over the role of GC representative for IMG, and that member Jazzbob be given status as GC representative.


Title: Re: application
Post by: Jazzbob on December 13, 2013, 07:58:37 AM
thank you for this!


Title: Re: application
Post by: JamJulLison on December 13, 2013, 09:13:11 AM
It is funny since I messaged him quite a while back and he got on it.  Not sure why he responds better to me. lol


Title: Re: application
Post by: StefanAlexander on December 13, 2013, 02:46:34 PM
As the leader of a independent state in the space, I want to sign to the GC


Title: Re: application
Post by: JamJulLison on December 13, 2013, 02:57:28 PM
At this time I don't think you would be eligible to join the GC just yet. Grow a little more and improve your alliance. Then maybe we can talk about it.