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Title: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: caker18 on December 16, 2019, 07:53:29 PM
Greetings all,
Just as many corporations have specific locations they reserve rights to, Pax Forti would like to avoid future conflicts regarding territorial claims by establishing our own exclusive economic zones.

We plan on the following types of territorial claims:

PROTECTED: We do not want basically anything, except two station slots and 25% of the planet or moon's surface.
CLAIMED: We want to trade exclusively in the area.

If you want to trade in a protected or claimed location and there are no more available spots, please contact me to establish negotiations.



Territorial Claims (subject to change):
Titania (P)
Oberon (C)
Castillo (C)
Titan (P)
Umbriel (P)
Beta Epsilon Eridani (C)
Alpha Sirius (P)
Alpha Procyon (P)
CIX 7644 (C)
OUI 34335 (C)


If you already claimed these locations, please PM.


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: sargas on December 17, 2019, 12:57:07 PM
 :))

good luck with that.


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: Raptor on December 17, 2019, 03:11:28 PM
I'm not on the EC currently, but I can tell you any proposal in the New Roman Senate to acknowledge any PF claims to even the smallest asteroid stands as much chance as Jeremy Corbyn did in the General Election the other week.


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: caker18 on December 17, 2019, 08:26:39 PM
I'm not on the EC currently, but I can tell you any proposal in the New Roman Senate to acknowledge any PF claims to even the smallest asteroid stands as much chance as Jeremy Corbyn did in the General Election the other week.

What happened to article 3, section 2 of your constitution, stating "Any claims of territory made by friendly foreign parties will be observed and respected by all New Roman Senators. Regulations for these territories must be clearly expressed by the owner of the territory, preferably in a public setting
such as the forums"?

Also, you provide "All galactic corporations and individuals are labeled either as friendly or hostile" only two options for labels, one being friendly and the other hostile... and hostile forces "are defined as any corporation or individual who actively attacks New Roman Senators or impedes New Roman operation." Since we are not actively attacking you at present time and we are not impeding any active operation to the best of our knowledge, we don't think we are "hostile forces."

Better yet, your first attack against us was against your constitution, again per section 3.2: "and if any are observed in operation by a New Roman Senator the friendly player may be asked to remove said modules/stations." Prior to our little disagreement, we should have been labelled "Friendly," as mentioned above, as we had no diplomatic ties. Thus, without warning as provided by your very own constitution, NoBrain attacked. If I interpret your "Failure to comply with a formal request to leave an estate planet may result in the individual or corporation being labeled as ‘hostile’ by the Executive Council" section correctly, attack is only permitted after "formal requests" have been presented. In our case, it has not.

Again, now your two Consuls have explaining to do.


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: Gildavinor on December 17, 2019, 09:57:44 PM
You were removed from our active KOS list and made inactive. This was done with me advocating for you, a situation which I have come to regret. You are, however still on the KOS list and therefore our stance toward you is HOSTILE.  It will remain so until someone makes a motion in our Senate to remove you from the list and a vote is taken and passed. Your constant passive-aggressive posturing makes that extremely unlikely.


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: raphael on December 17, 2019, 10:57:26 PM
Greetings all,
Just as many corporations have specific locations they reserve rights to, Pax Forti would like to avoid future conflicts regarding territorial claims by establishing our own exclusive economic zones.

We plan on the following types of territorial claims:

PROTECTED: We do not want basically anything, except two station slots and 25% of the planet or moon's surface.
CLAIMED: We want to trade exclusively in the area.

If you want to trade in a protected or claimed location and there are no more available spots, please contact me to establish negotiations.



Territorial Claims (subject to change):
Titania (P)
Oberon (C)
Castillo (C)
Titan (P)
Umbriel (P)
Beta Epsilon Eridani (C)
Alpha Sirius (P)
Alpha Procyon (P)
CIX 7644 (C)
OUI 34335 (C)


If you already claimed these locations, please PM.

If I get bored this Christmas, I might visit those locations and just destroy everything.  :)


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: caker18 on December 18, 2019, 12:00:42 AM
You were removed from our active KOS list and made inactive. This was done with me advocating for you, a situation which I have come to regret. You are, however still on the KOS list and therefore our stance toward you is HOSTILE.  It will remain so until someone makes a motion in our Senate to remove you from the list and a vote is taken and passed. Your constant passive-aggressive posturing makes that extremely unlikely.

What happened in the very far beginning? Right when it all started... it was because we placed modules on the moon. Prior to the placing of modules on the moon, no diplomatic contact was established. Therefore, according to your rules, PF would be marked FRIENDLY. So without warning NoBrain attacked. Do you see the confusion here?


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: caker18 on December 18, 2019, 12:01:50 AM
Greetings all,
Just as many corporations have specific locations they reserve rights to, Pax Forti would like to avoid future conflicts regarding territorial claims by establishing our own exclusive economic zones.

We plan on the following types of territorial claims:

PROTECTED: We do not want basically anything, except two station slots and 25% of the planet or moon's surface.
CLAIMED: We want to trade exclusively in the area.

If you want to trade in a protected or claimed location and there are no more available spots, please contact me to establish negotiations.



Territorial Claims (subject to change):
Titania (P)
Oberon (C)
Castillo (C)
Titan (P)
Umbriel (P)
Beta Epsilon Eridani (C)
Alpha Sirius (P)
Alpha Procyon (P)
CIX 7644 (C)
OUI 34335 (C)


If you already claimed these locations, please PM.

If I get bored this Christmas, I might visit those locations and just destroy everything.  :)

You're not gonna find anything there mate... claims don't equal placement. I set them aside for clearance, doesn't mean I'm inhabiting them rn


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: NoBrain on December 18, 2019, 12:30:22 AM
You were removed from our active KOS list and made inactive. This was done with me advocating for you, a situation which I have come to regret. You are, however still on the KOS list and therefore our stance toward you is HOSTILE.  It will remain so until someone makes a motion in our Senate to remove you from the list and a vote is taken and passed. Your constant passive-aggressive posturing makes that extremely unlikely.

What happened in the very far beginning? Right when it all started... it was because we placed modules on the moon. Prior to the placing of modules on the moon, no diplomatic contact was established. Therefore, according to your rules, PF would be marked FRIENDLY. So without warning NoBrain attacked. Do you see the confusion here?

You place a laser on luna (Moon) surface had 2 ships in orbit. You was doing an aggressive move (Act of war) and SPQNR responded after approval from a Consul.. My role as luna defender, is to protect and I did so..

You know our Consuls has the power to deliver an appropriate response, military and/or written, including delegating this power to a SPQNR member of their choice.

I say:
Start with one location, established the PF trade location, defend it (And you have the modules for it, as you claimed. :))) and place a station, so others can see that this is PF own.. After PF get more members move to a new location and do the same.. but you are not going to earn $$ on station trade. (You do know AG has a flat economy)


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: Raptor on December 18, 2019, 02:49:28 AM
I'm not on the EC currently, but I can tell you any proposal in the New Roman Senate to acknowledge any PF claims to even the smallest asteroid stands as much chance as Jeremy Corbyn did in the General Election the other week.

What happened to article 3, section 2 of your constitution, stating "Any claims of territory made by friendly foreign parties will be observed and respected by all New Roman Senators. Regulations for these territories must be clearly expressed by the owner of the territory, preferably in a public setting
such as the forums"?

Also, you provide "All galactic corporations and individuals are labeled either as friendly or hostile" only two options for labels, one being friendly and the other hostile... and hostile forces "are defined as any corporation or individual who actively attacks New Roman Senators or impedes New Roman operation." Since we are not actively attacking you at present time and we are not impeding any active operation to the best of our knowledge, we don't think we are "hostile forces."

Better yet, your first attack against us was against your constitution, again per section 3.2: "and if any are observed in operation by a New Roman Senator the friendly player may be asked to remove said modules/stations." Prior to our little disagreement, we should have been labelled "Friendly," as mentioned above, as we had no diplomatic ties. Thus, without warning as provided by your very own constitution, NoBrain attacked. If I interpret your "Failure to comply with a formal request to leave an estate planet may result in the individual or corporation being labeled as ‘hostile’ by the Executive Council" section correctly, attack is only permitted after "formal requests" have been presented. In our case, it has not.

Again, now your two Consuls have explaining to do.

So... you CAN read... now all you have to do is work on actually comprehending your status.
The three parts I bolded are the key where you're wrong.

1) You're not a friendly foreign party, but are on our KOS list. That your listing is passive doesn't change that. BTW, I'm inclined to call for another vote to change that again on the basis of you not being constructive, but looking to pick a fight every other day.

2) It's irrelevant what YOU think. Though "we don't think" actually sums up how I see youse quite completely. Furthermore: we have codified our KOS and war (including Limited War status) in and alongside the Constitution, none of the actions we've taken went against our laws.

3) The above also answers the third bolded part. You weren't listed as friendly, you were KOS listed at the time of our attacks.



Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: Raptor on December 18, 2019, 02:51:04 AM
You were removed from our active KOS list and made inactive. This was done with me advocating for you, a situation which I have come to regret. You are, however still on the KOS list and therefore our stance toward you is HOSTILE.  It will remain so until someone makes a motion in our Senate to remove you from the list and a vote is taken and passed. Your constant passive-aggressive posturing makes that extremely unlikely.

What happened in the very far beginning? Right when it all started... it was because we placed modules on the moon. Prior to the placing of modules on the moon, no diplomatic contact was established. Therefore, according to your rules, PF would be marked FRIENDLY. So without warning NoBrain attacked. Do you see the confusion here?

Conveniently ignoring the crime of trying to sell our deposits at the same time...

You keep lying, I've made up my mind and will ask the Senate to restore your active KOS status.


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: sargas on December 18, 2019, 08:14:39 AM
Caker, caker, caker...

You Are A Hostile Foreign Entity.
Both by your actions and your little speeches.

Trying to sell me a deposit belonging to SPQNR was the last hope you had of imperial aid.
Yes it was me who notified NewRome of that act of piracy (claim jumpers were hung in the old days).

If you want a peaceful existence, mature a little and act accordingly.

And it's nice to see Raphael again.


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: Gildavinor on December 18, 2019, 09:18:33 AM
Caker18,  some time ago I asked you to delete all your alts. I see that hasn't happened.  You told me at that time that most of PF is inactive.  If that's the case, kick the inactive members from your Corporation.  That way they won't be caught up in any nastiness that ensues if your inactive status changes to active.

As leader of a Corporation you speak and act for the entire Corporation. Should you be made active KOS again all of PF will be included in the disposition.


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: caker18 on December 18, 2019, 06:05:35 PM
Caker, caker, caker...

You Are A Hostile Foreign Entity.
Both by your actions and your little speeches.

Trying to sell me a deposit belonging to SPQNR was the last hope you had of imperial aid.
Yes it was me who notified NewRome of that act of piracy (claim jumpers were hung in the old days).

If you want a peaceful existence, mature a little and act accordingly.

And it's nice to see Raphael again.

I am aware of that fact.


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: caker18 on December 18, 2019, 06:06:45 PM
Caker18,  some time ago I asked you to delete all your alts. I see that hasn't happened.  You told me at that time that most of PF is inactive.  If that's the case, kick the inactive members from your Corporation.  That way they won't be caught up in any nastiness that ensues if your inactive status changes to active.

As leader of a Corporation you speak and act for the entire Corporation. Should you be made active KOS again all of PF will be included in the disposition.

Which alts? I advise you to specify which nonexistent alts I have. You see, you spiking people off in SOL and their disposition to attack you is none of my business. I speak for PF only. At that time, I requested that you speak to Admin Zeno and other parties personally. I see that hasn't happened.


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: caker18 on December 20, 2019, 02:22:39 AM
Caker18,  some time ago I asked you to delete all your alts. I see that hasn't happened.  You told me at that time that most of PF is inactive.  If that's the case, kick the inactive members from your Corporation.  That way they won't be caught up in any nastiness that ensues if your inactive status changes to active.

As leader of a Corporation you speak and act for the entire Corporation. Should you be made active KOS again all of PF will be included in the disposition.

I have a solution. Hostile treatment is not going to help our Envision2020 project, so I suggest we cool off and pretend we mutually don't exist for a while. Then we can resume talks after things have cooled down.


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: caker18 on December 20, 2019, 08:00:01 PM
Greetings all,
Just as many corporations have specific locations they reserve rights to, Pax Forti would like to avoid future conflicts regarding territorial claims by establishing our own exclusive economic zones.

We plan on the following types of territorial claims:

PROTECTED: We do not want basically anything, except two station slots and 25% of the planet or moon's surface.
CLAIMED: We want to trade exclusively in the area.

If you want to trade in a protected or claimed location and there are no more available spots, please contact me to establish negotiations.



Territorial Claims (subject to change):
Titania (P)
Oberon (C)
Castillo (C)
Titan (P)
Umbriel (P)
Beta Epsilon Eridani (C)
Alpha Sirius (P)
Alpha Procyon (P)
CIX 7644 (C)
OUI 34335 (C)


If you already claimed these locations, please PM.

If I get bored this Christmas, I might visit those locations and just destroy everything.  :)

Quote
Attacker opened fire!

Wave 1 - Primary forces (Weapons & Boarding)

SSS QRF Vs. CS Monster
Boarding assault
CS Monster maneuvers into boarding range first.
CS Monster sending Power Armor Marines Assault Unit MK I to find a boarding spot.
The boarding party found an area and sabotaged it, doing 24143 damage!
SSS QRF sending Marines Assault Unit MK MMMMMMMMM to find a boarding spot.
The boarding party found an area and sabotaged it, doing 10118247 damage!
EMERGENCY JUMP!
CS Monster has retreated from the battlefield due to heavy damage!
SSS QRF captured a group of 17379 enemy personnel during the fight.

SSS QRF Vs. CS Liberty
Weapons assault
CS Liberty maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
CS Liberty attacks with Railgun Battery MK I using aimed shoot mode.
Light hit on target, doing 6138 damage!

CS Liberty maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
CS Liberty attacks with Viper Squadron MK I using standard formation.
Critical hit on target, doing 5090 damage!

Boarding assault
CS Liberty maneuvers into boarding range first.
CS Liberty sending Marines Assault Unit MK C to find a boarding spot.
The boarding party found an area and sabotaged it, doing 206663 damage!
SSS QRF sending 10% fatigued Marines Assault Unit MK MMMMMMMMM to find a boarding spot.
The boarding party found an area and sabotaged it, doing 9218847 damage!
Target shield is down!
EMERGENCY JUMP!
CS Liberty has retreated from the battlefield due to heavy damage!
SSS QRF captured a group of 3403 enemy personnel during the fight.
CS Liberty lost some cargo while executing the emergency jump...
SSS QRF searching for dumped cargo...
3 m3 Brass, 22 m3 Nitrogen, 3 m3 Cobalt scooped into cargo bay.

SSS QRF Vs. CS Punisher
Boarding assault
CS Punisher maneuvers into boarding range first.
CS Punisher sending Marines Assault Unit MK I to find a boarding spot.
The boarding party found an area and sabotaged it, doing 6438 damage!
SSS QRF sending 20% fatigued Marines Assault Unit MK MMMMMMMMM to find a boarding spot.
The boarding party found an area and sabotaged it, doing 9293797 damage!
EMERGENCY JUMP!
CS Punisher has retreated from the battlefield due to heavy damage!
SSS QRF captured a group of 1155 enemy personnel during the fight.
CS Punisher lost some cargo while executing the emergency jump...
SSS QRF searching for dumped cargo...
1 m3 Gold, 73 m3 Iron-nickel, 1 m3 Tin scooped into cargo bay.

Wave 2 - Primary forces (Weapons flyby)

Wave 3 - Protected forces (Weapons & Boarding)

Objective: Defeat the opponent primary & protected forces.
 
Attacker victory!
Defender
caker18
 
W   
 
100%
CS Monster
M   
 
100%

W   
 
100%
S   
 
100%
CS Liberty
M   
 
100%

W   
 
100%
CS Punisher
M   
 
100%

    

 


All I can say is that it was a terrific waste of AP and time


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: raphael on December 20, 2019, 09:57:59 PM
Really? It didn't hurt you at all? Okay, let's do it ten more times. Let's go.


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: Gildavinor on December 20, 2019, 10:35:49 PM
Caker18,  some time ago I asked you to delete all your alts. I see that hasn't happened.  You told me at that time that most of PF is inactive.  If that's the case, kick the inactive members from your Corporation.  That way they won't be caught up in any nastiness that ensues if your inactive status changes to active.

As leader of a Corporation you speak and act for the entire Corporation. Should you be made active KOS again all of PF will be included in the disposition.

I have a solution. Hostile treatment is not going to help our Envision2020 project, so I suggest we cool off and pretend we mutually don't exist for a while. Then we can resume talks after things have cooled down.
You do not have a solution.  There will be no talks. Tunc Ducere is yet another verified alt that you tried to infiltrate SPQNR with. 


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: caker18 on December 20, 2019, 10:45:06 PM
Really? It didn't hurt you at all? Okay, let's do it ten more times. Let's go.

Not that it didn't do anything, just that it's pointless for you, you don't get anything and you're just wasting AP, it's lose-lose


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: RegnadKcin on December 20, 2019, 10:48:10 PM
Not that it didn't do anything, just that it's pointless for you, you don't get anything and you're just wasting AP, it's lose-lose

It made him feel good, in this Christmas season... that's worth... ANYTHING!
ROFLMAO!!


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: caker18 on December 20, 2019, 10:48:16 PM
Caker18,  some time ago I asked you to delete all your alts. I see that hasn't happened.  You told me at that time that most of PF is inactive.  If that's the case, kick the inactive members from your Corporation.  That way they won't be caught up in any nastiness that ensues if your inactive status changes to active.

As leader of a Corporation you speak and act for the entire Corporation. Should you be made active KOS again all of PF will be included in the disposition.

I have a solution. Hostile treatment is not going to help our Envision2020 project, so I suggest we cool off and pretend we mutually don't exist for a while. Then we can resume talks after things have cooled down.
You do not have a solution.  There will be no talks. Tunc Ducere is yet another verified alt that you tried to infiltrate SPQNR with. 

Who is tunc ducere? What lies are you trying to spread? I do not own the account. Tunc Ducere happens to be referred by me, and often we play together at our local library. It just so happens that I told him that things in PF are getting hot so he should choose another corporation. Is that not enough for you? Do you think there is zero chance that he will apply for the most powerful corp in the game? Allow room for reasonable doubt, man!


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: caker18 on December 20, 2019, 10:48:51 PM
Not that it didn't do anything, just that it's pointless for you, you don't get anything and you're just wasting AP, it's lose-lose

It made him feel good, in this Christmas season... that's worth... ANYTHING!
ROFLMAO!!

Sure doesn't give him any gifts


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: RegnadKcin on December 20, 2019, 10:54:59 PM

It made him feel good, in this Christmas season... that's worth... ANYTHING!
ROFLMAO!!

Sure doesn't give him any gifts

ROFLMAO! Like you could give TOAA a "gift"? What, an XXX ACB??
You really are pathetic.


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: caker18 on December 20, 2019, 10:57:12 PM
Caker18,  some time ago I asked you to delete all your alts. I see that hasn't happened.  You told me at that time that most of PF is inactive.  If that's the case, kick the inactive members from your Corporation.  That way they won't be caught up in any nastiness that ensues if your inactive status changes to active.

As leader of a Corporation you speak and act for the entire Corporation. Should you be made active KOS again all of PF will be included in the disposition.

I have a solution. Hostile treatment is not going to help our Envision2020 project, so I suggest we cool off and pretend we mutually don't exist for a while. Then we can resume talks after things have cooled down.
You do not have a solution.  There will be no talks. Tunc Ducere is yet another verified alt that you tried to infiltrate SPQNR with. 

Again, Tunc is not one of my alts. I will give you that. You talk of "ensuring new [and inexperienced] players stay," and then you come along someone who doesn't know these "unwritten rules" and attempts to "sell your deposit."

Did you even see the message? It was written something like this:
Quote
Sargas,
I found a deposit, and I want to sell it to you. However, NoBrain already has a module on it. What should I do?

Then sargas informs you and we start this whole thing. I didn't even tell Sargas where the deposit was. I asked him for advice before selling it. I do not understand what you have against this whole thing.

On your inactive KOS thing, same difference. Inform us, as you kindly did to AZ, before you bomb the sh*t out of our outposts. Happens to be very appreciated in our corner of the world.

Yes. Zeno is a good friend of mine, and will come to my defense as needed. But when my problem is "solved," as I was removed from active KOS, he will still attack as he determines profitable. Therefore, I advised you to discuss with AZ to stop the attacks.

If you have more questions about the *actual* story, please do ask.



Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: caker18 on December 20, 2019, 10:58:04 PM

It made him feel good, in this Christmas season... that's worth... ANYTHING!
ROFLMAO!!

Sure doesn't give him any gifts

ROFLMAO! Like you could give TOAA a "gift"? What, an XXX ACB??
You really are pathetic.

Sigh. It often requires "intelligence" as you determine it, to figure that "gift" *probably* means some random kind of module or gain.


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: RegnadKcin on December 20, 2019, 10:59:13 PM
"Again, Tunc is not one of my alts."
Well, yes, he is. And not even a very good one. Just like "defender" was.


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: caker18 on December 20, 2019, 10:59:55 PM
"Again, Tunc is not one of my alts."
Well, yes, he is. And not even a very good one. Just like "defender" was.

Evidence please? IP - not evidence man. Public libraries *happen* to have the same IPs. Just fyi.

EDIT: Also, it's prudent to notice that just because some people don't like your way of dealing with things doesn't mean you have to draw a big cake flag on their face. Some people just don't like SPQNR, and they have their own reasons.


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: RegnadKcin on December 20, 2019, 11:04:09 PM
Evidence please?

Why would we provide you with "evidence"? We know it. You know it. EVERYONE knows it. Just like we know you were lying about "Railgun-MMs". You really ARE a pathetic liar... Maybe you should find another game?


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: caker18 on December 20, 2019, 11:05:45 PM
Evidence please?

Why would we provide you with "evidence"? We know it. You know it. EVERYONE knows it. Just like we know you were lying about "Railgun-MMs". You really ARE a pathetic liar... Maybe you should find another game?

Alright, then you're my alt. Sargas is my alt. Atami is my alt. EVERYONE knows that now, don't they?


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: RegnadKcin on December 20, 2019, 11:07:27 PM
Alright, then you're my alt. Sargas is my alt. Atami is my alt. EVERYONE knows that now, don't they?

No one knows that. But we've all tripped to YOUR lies!
ROFLMAO!!


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: Gildavinor on December 21, 2019, 05:03:22 AM
Who is tunc ducere? What lies are you trying to spread? I do not own the account. Tunc Ducere happens to be referred by me, and often we play together at our local library. It just so happens that I told him that things in PF are getting hot so he should choose another corporation. Is that not enough for you? Do you think there is zero chance that he will apply for the most powerful corp in the game? Allow room for reasonable doubt, man!
So you referred him, Told him "things in PF are getting hot so he should choose another corporation", Gave him the link to our constitution, and DIDN'T tell him that the reason things were to hot for PF was that you ran afoul of SPQNR? :21: ... No doubt ... reasonable or otherwise.

"AZ is my friend" ... you are so close in each others counsel that you know what messages are sent or not sent to him? ... Improbable!

[PF] m33galaxy (#11678) ... consecutive player number to you, lands in PF immediately ... Improbable!

[PF] caker19 (#12717) :)) ... admires you so much he copies you name ... Impossible!

Defender ... shows up on the cusp of your first run in with us ... Improbable!

7.8 billion people in the world, some 200 active captains in AG, and we're supposed to belief you know, (and are friends with), HOW many of them? :14: You are clumsy. NO you are beyond clumsy, you're idiotic.





Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: sargas on December 21, 2019, 08:47:53 AM
Why, if you warned him about the conflict with SPQNR, did he try to join that corporation and not the Empire.

Is it because you already have an alt in EOS?
Yes, we are aware of him (as are a couple of other corporations)

I didn't know that defender is one of your alts. He just hit Joe's B&G.
I guess that puts PF back in our gunsights.


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: RegnadKcin on December 21, 2019, 09:59:27 AM
Who is tunc ducere? What lies are you trying to spread? I do not own the account. Tunc Ducere happens to be referred by me, and often we play together at our local library. It just so happens that I told him that things in PF are getting hot so he should choose another corporation. Is that not enough for you? Do you think there is zero chance that he will apply for the most powerful corp in the game? Allow room for reasonable doubt, man!
So you referred him, Told him "things in PF are getting hot so he should choose another corporation", Gave him the link to our constitution, and DIDN'T tell him that the reason things were to hot for PF was that you ran afoul of SPQNR? :21: ... No doubt ... reasonable or otherwise.

"AZ is my friend" ... you are so close in each others counsel that you know what messages are sent or not sent to him? ... Improbable!

[PF] m33galaxy (#11678) ... consecutive player number to you, lands in PF immediately ... Improbable!

[PF] caker19 (#12717) :)) ... admires you so much he copies you name ... Impossible!

Defender ... shows up on the cusp of your first run in with us ... Improbable!


You forgot that Oldie but Goodie, "muffiner18".


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: caker18 on December 24, 2019, 04:43:36 PM
Who is tunc ducere? What lies are you trying to spread? I do not own the account. Tunc Ducere happens to be referred by me, and often we play together at our local library. It just so happens that I told him that things in PF are getting hot so he should choose another corporation. Is that not enough for you? Do you think there is zero chance that he will apply for the most powerful corp in the game? Allow room for reasonable doubt, man!
So you referred him, Told him "things in PF are getting hot so he should choose another corporation", Gave him the link to our constitution, and DIDN'T tell him that the reason things were to hot for PF was that you ran afoul of SPQNR? :21: ... No doubt ... reasonable or otherwise.

"AZ is my friend" ... you are so close in each others counsel that you know what messages are sent or not sent to him? ... Improbable!

[PF] m33galaxy (#11678) ... consecutive player number to you, lands in PF immediately ... Improbable!

[PF] caker19 (#12717) :)) ... admires you so much he copies you name ... Impossible!

Defender ... shows up on the cusp of your first run in with us ... Improbable!

7.8 billion people in the world, some 200 active captains in AG, and we're supposed to belief you know, (and are friends with), HOW many of them? :14: You are clumsy. NO you are beyond clumsy, you're idiotic.





Sigh, muffiner18 and caker19 are fricking trolls, I don't care how much you hit them youre actually only doing me good, m33galaxy and I were referred from the same person, and we created accounts next to each other physically, you see we know each other as colleagues. AZ and I are companions and you know we fought together, he informed me that you guys told him to screw off the surface of the moon.

In other words, hit all of them as much as you freaking can, please and thank you


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: caker18 on December 24, 2019, 04:44:04 PM
Who is tunc ducere? What lies are you trying to spread? I do not own the account. Tunc Ducere happens to be referred by me, and often we play together at our local library. It just so happens that I told him that things in PF are getting hot so he should choose another corporation. Is that not enough for you? Do you think there is zero chance that he will apply for the most powerful corp in the game? Allow room for reasonable doubt, man!
So you referred him, Told him "things in PF are getting hot so he should choose another corporation", Gave him the link to our constitution, and DIDN'T tell him that the reason things were to hot for PF was that you ran afoul of SPQNR? :21: ... No doubt ... reasonable or otherwise.

"AZ is my friend" ... you are so close in each others counsel that you know what messages are sent or not sent to him? ... Improbable!

[PF] m33galaxy (#11678) ... consecutive player number to you, lands in PF immediately ... Improbable!

[PF] caker19 (#12717) :)) ... admires you so much he copies you name ... Impossible!

Defender ... shows up on the cusp of your first run in with us ... Improbable!


You forgot that Oldie but Goodie, "muffiner18".

Also hit him as much as possible too. Thanks!


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: NoBrain on December 24, 2019, 05:56:43 PM
Who is tunc ducere? What lies are you trying to spread? I do not own the account. Tunc Ducere happens to be referred by me, and often we play together at our local library. It just so happens that I told him that things in PF are getting hot so he should choose another corporation. Is that not enough for you? Do you think there is zero chance that he will apply for the most powerful corp in the game? Allow room for reasonable doubt, man!
So you referred him, Told him "things in PF are getting hot so he should choose another corporation", Gave him the link to our constitution, and DIDN'T tell him that the reason things were to hot for PF was that you ran afoul of SPQNR? :21: ... No doubt ... reasonable or otherwise.

"AZ is my friend" ... you are so close in each others counsel that you know what messages are sent or not sent to him? ... Improbable!

[PF] m33galaxy (#11678) ... consecutive player number to you, lands in PF immediately ... Improbable!

[PF] caker19 (#12717) :)) ... admires you so much he copies you name ... Impossible!

Defender ... shows up on the cusp of your first run in with us ... Improbable!

7.8 billion people in the world, some 200 active captains in AG, and we're supposed to belief you know, (and are friends with), HOW many of them? :14: You are clumsy. NO you are beyond clumsy, you're idiotic.





Sigh, muffiner18 and caker19 are fricking trolls, I don't care how much you hit them youre actually only doing me good, m33galaxy and I were referred from the same person, and we created accounts next to each other physically, you see we know each other as colleagues. AZ and I are companions and you know we fought together, he informed me that you guys told him to screw off the surface of the moon.

In other words, hit all of them as much as you freaking can, please and thank you

Why was trolls in PF ??? (Caker19 was kick out today)


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: sargas on December 24, 2019, 10:46:59 PM
and your lack of response to my post will adjust the Imperial gun-sights how?


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: caker18 on December 24, 2019, 11:47:29 PM
Who is tunc ducere? What lies are you trying to spread? I do not own the account. Tunc Ducere happens to be referred by me, and often we play together at our local library. It just so happens that I told him that things in PF are getting hot so he should choose another corporation. Is that not enough for you? Do you think there is zero chance that he will apply for the most powerful corp in the game? Allow room for reasonable doubt, man!
So you referred him, Told him "things in PF are getting hot so he should choose another corporation", Gave him the link to our constitution, and DIDN'T tell him that the reason things were to hot for PF was that you ran afoul of SPQNR? :21: ... No doubt ... reasonable or otherwise.

"AZ is my friend" ... you are so close in each others counsel that you know what messages are sent or not sent to him? ... Improbable!

[PF] m33galaxy (#11678) ... consecutive player number to you, lands in PF immediately ... Improbable!

[PF] caker19 (#12717) :)) ... admires you so much he copies you name ... Impossible!

Defender ... shows up on the cusp of your first run in with us ... Improbable!

7.8 billion people in the world, some 200 active captains in AG, and we're supposed to belief you know, (and are friends with), HOW many of them? :14: You are clumsy. NO you are beyond clumsy, you're idiotic.





Sigh, muffiner18 and caker19 are fricking trolls, I don't care how much you hit them youre actually only doing me good, m33galaxy and I were referred from the same person, and we created accounts next to each other physically, you see we know each other as colleagues. AZ and I are companions and you know we fought together, he informed me that you guys told him to screw off the surface of the moon.

In other words, hit all of them as much as you freaking can, please and thank you

Why was trolls in PF ??? (Caker19 was kick out today)

To be honest, I'm not the immigration officer. I don't know


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: caker18 on December 24, 2019, 11:49:22 PM
Why, if you warned him about the conflict with SPQNR, did he try to join that corporation and not the Empire.

Is it because you already have an alt in EOS?
Yes, we are aware of him (as are a couple of other corporations)

I didn't know that defender is one of your alts. He just hit Joe's B&G.
I guess that puts PF back in our gunsights.

Defender? He's hit me too. How him as much as possible, thanks for the favor.

I didn't warn him about anything. I told him to join a good Corp and try to learn from my mistakes


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: caker18 on December 25, 2019, 12:35:32 AM
Why, if you warned him about the conflict with SPQNR, did he try to join that corporation and not the Empire.

Is it because you already have an alt in EOS?
Yes, we are aware of him (as are a couple of other corporations)

I didn't know that defender is one of your alts. He just hit Joe's B&G.
I guess that puts PF back in our gunsights.

Also, put yourself in his does. He's more likely to apply for the most powerful Corp... he's new after all


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: caker18 on December 26, 2019, 01:39:02 PM
Greetings all,
Just as many corporations have specific locations they reserve rights to, Pax Forti would like to avoid future conflicts regarding territorial claims by establishing our own exclusive economic zones.

We plan on the following types of territorial claims:

PROTECTED: We do not want basically anything, except two station slots and 25% of the planet or moon's surface.
CLAIMED: We want to trade exclusively in the area.

If you want to trade in a protected or claimed location and there are no more available spots, please contact me to establish negotiations.



Territorial Claims (subject to change):
Titania (P)
Oberon (C)
Castillo (C)
Titan (P)
Umbriel (P)
Beta Epsilon Eridani (C)
Alpha Sirius (P)
Alpha Procyon (P)
CIX 7644 (C)
OUI 34335 (C)


If you already claimed these locations, please PM.

OK but while I understand some corps are reluctant to engage in any form of agreement or compromise, this plan is the only way I can see that can ensure that our corp does not infringe by accident or otherwise on your own territorial claims.

We can guarantee that no similar conflict can arise in the future if the safety of our claims can be ensured.


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: Gildavinor on December 26, 2019, 06:54:13 PM

OK but while I understand some corps are reluctant to engage in any form of agreement or compromise, this plan is the only way I can see that can ensure that our corp does not infringe by accident or otherwise on your own territorial claims.

We can guarantee that no similar conflict can arise in the future if the safety of our claims can be ensured.

Here's how you can tell. If the surface is completely covered by one Corp's modules, the orbits are full of their stations, and there is a great big warship defending them ... they are claimed.

If not, they are up for grabs.


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: caker18 on December 26, 2019, 08:53:36 PM

OK but while I understand some corps are reluctant to engage in any form of agreement or compromise, this plan is the only way I can see that can ensure that our corp does not infringe by accident or otherwise on your own territorial claims.

We can guarantee that no similar conflict can arise in the future if the safety of our claims can be ensured.

Here's how you can tell. If the surface is completely covered by one Corp's modules, the orbits are full of their stations, and there is a great big warship defending them ... they are claimed.

If not, they are up for grabs.

For clarification, you said ALL, not ONE, right? (Just a question, not reference)


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: Gildavinor on December 26, 2019, 09:25:13 PM
If you can't figure out if a planet or moon are claimed you are too stupid to be playing this game. You are just being passive aggressive again. You are a fool.


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: caker18 on December 27, 2019, 12:35:37 AM
If you can't figure out if a planet or moon are claimed you are too stupid to be playing this game. You are just being passive aggressive again. You are a fool.

It is common courtesy not to call people fools. Just clarifying,  I may have been playing for awhile, but a lot of your rules are new to me. Give it some time.


Title: Re: Pax Forti Territorial Claims and Protection Zones
Post by: sargas on December 27, 2019, 09:04:22 AM
what rules are new to you?