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Corporation General Talk => Bounty hunting => Topic started by: raphael on November 09, 2013, 10:28:20 PM



Title: ITO
Post by: raphael on November 09, 2013, 10:28:20 PM
The Syndicate continues to crush ITO, and will now set a new bounty for information leading to the location of the following:

1. 10 QPs for any station with power greater than 100,000. 5 QPs for stations between 50,000 and 100,000. 3 for 20,000-50,000.
2. 3 QPs for any ship doing a COM mission.
3. 1 QP for any ship and mine (per location).

Rewards will increase if the info provided will lead to a great victory.  :)

*** Offer is open until ITO surrenders or leaves the Galactic Council ***


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: Jazzbob on November 10, 2013, 01:46:53 AM
If i give you the location of my (remaning) two stations, will I get 20 QP?


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on November 10, 2013, 07:23:33 AM
No. The offer does not apply to the enemies of the Syndicate. :)



Title: Re: ITO
Post by: Jazzbob on November 10, 2013, 07:44:34 AM
So i can give the Information even so to you: My stations are packed now and on the way to a new orbit.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: Jazzbob on November 10, 2013, 10:40:30 AM
concerning my destroyed science station: quid pro quo

So, I don't make any additional demands.



Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on March 18, 2014, 01:23:38 AM
This offer is still active. New bounty listed! See first post :)


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: JamJulLison on March 18, 2014, 02:15:45 AM
They don't seem crushed to me. They keep growing.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: FreezeLove on March 20, 2014, 10:40:38 AM
Nice observation Jam :19: To me it seems Raph has did ITO a favor instead of going about are everyday AG lives, hes given use a great reason to grow faster and bond even closer to some day destroy a common enemy. Dont forget Raph the more you hit a dog the higher probability that dog is going to bite your ass. :))


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on March 20, 2014, 11:10:52 AM
Good luck with your "destroy a common enemy" mission. Haha

I honestly don't think any of you ITO guys will ever catch up to me. Pray that I don't play for six months straight--that's the only way for you to catch up a bit. LOL


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: JoolzVern on March 21, 2014, 01:18:57 AM
Careful there, Admiral 'Fancy Pants'. We're not only growing, but our influence extends more throughout the game every day; much like the stench of your ships or in-game notoriety for being jealous of ITO.  :14:

The truth is we don't expose our ships all that much and are not concerned with your petty and feeble assaults but should that change we can do much more with our 8 active players and ships than simply assault you in futility.

The most ridiculous part is that players would have to be pretty dense to rat on ITO to you. They would get far more by joining or just being allies than they would being your snitch. We're still accepting new players and growing daily with a large pool of collective experience and resources. We're doing so well I just lowered our corp tax rate.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on March 21, 2014, 07:47:30 AM
Still playing that "jealous of ITO" card, eh? You're more deluded than I thought,hahaha

I will remember your word in three, six months from now. We'll see how much ITO has improved. You better work hard and not disappoint me. LOL


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: JamJulLison on March 21, 2014, 10:00:13 PM
Here is the thing when we compare SSS and ITO.


ITO is full of active members and is growing. It is a true corporation.

SSS is pretty much a one man corp. It's other member cluster81 is barely active and haven't seemed to grown. So it is hard to see it as a legitimate corporation when pretty much all of it's power is just cause of 1 member.  So while yes you raph are growing more and more in power, your inactive person isn't and you don't have any more members. There for your corp is not truly growing at all. Just you.


Now lets compare some other corps. I want other corp members to please not take any insult to this. I am not trying to insult anyone.


IMG:  Half it's members are active, 1 is semi-active and one isn't on at all.  Right now to me they barely qualify as a corp.  Now this isn't entirely Dadds fault.  It can be hard to keep players active on here.  I have had to boot quite a few inactive myself.


EOS: Well the majority of their power comes from Mata.  They got a decent amount of members. I am not really sure how active they are all though. Some of their members I wonder though how well they are really helping and growing. One being icup a former member of my corp.  icpup left when Sargas started talking about leaving.  He actually left before Sargas if I remember correctly.  So he immediately bailed ship.  He also isn't always too active.  Most of his growth to around his current power was due to help from my corp when he was with us.  Now while I am sure he has gotten help from EoS, before he was with us he never showed any growth really.  The guy has been around quite a while.  His player number is 908.  Which means he joined shortly before Aysle who's number is 925.  To me he never came across someone who had a lot of drive and didn't do a lot of interacting with the rest of the corp.   Then there is simoncoetzer.  Now he is a good guy and was pretty active with the corp for a while.  Then he seemed to vanish.   There is also simoncoetzer who at times has problems staying active.  The rest I can't really be sure on.  I do with them the best though.


NHC: Many members but most are not very active and the ones that are don't do much to really work together. It is a failure as a corp.


None off the other corps are worthy of mention except for my own. 


In my corp I have been working hard to help my members improve. Not just myself. As a result my various members have all began to grow. Just look how many are in the top 20 now. A lot of my former members are also in the top 20.  I could be selfish and just work on increasing my own stuff but that means my own members wouldn't do as well. So as a corp we would be weakened.  A good leader puts the needs of his members before his own.  Individually we may not have as much power as Raph or Mata.  But as a corp we are stronger because I work to make sure my people continue to grow and prosper.   ITO kind of reminds me of a lesser version of us.  They are working to grow as a corp together.  Their leader works to help make everyone better. Not just himself.  Given the time ITO could be as good as TGE.  Though if they will catch up to us is another matter.  Just because the differences in tech levels.  Still stranger things have happened. 


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on March 22, 2014, 12:35:13 AM
It's not hard to be in the top 20. And most of TGE's recent power increase is only because of sinargh's modules: just distribute the modules and voila, many members enter the top 20. So I'm not convinced that your corp grew because of working together. LOL

It's true that I don't have many members. But that's only the official count. I have many pilots working under me in the shadows, and they are growing stronger too. :)


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: JamJulLison on March 22, 2014, 01:43:47 AM
It's not hard to be in the top 20. And most of TGE's recent power increase is only because of sinargh's modules: just distribute the modules and voila, many members enter the top 20. So I'm not convinced that your corp grew because of working together. LOL

It's true that I don't have many members. But that's only the official count. I have many pilots working under me in the shadows, and they are growing stronger too. :)


Most of sin's stuff hasn't even been pass around yet.  I am still going through it.  Also you need to take into account how the growth was going before we got any of them.  Everything was coming out of my pocket to make.  All Sin has done is provide shields of a strength i can already make now, some marines which I can also make the same level as and a few other things.  I am not going to lie, it is a big help.  But not everyone has benefited from it yet.  It is taking time to get it done.  All the weapons being made for the ships are stuff I am still making.  There is one member in particular you should look at. Karamine.  Still very new to the game.  The ship I assigned this member is one I made myself for Karamine to use.  This ship isn't as strong as some of the others I have made.  It was only just enough to barely put Karamine into the top 20.  From there Karamine used what money was made from COMs from that ship to help fund stuff for  his own COM ship.  So most of his power didn't come from what I made him.  But it helped him to get a really good start though.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: sargas on March 22, 2014, 01:50:00 AM
Here is the thing when we compare SSS and ITO.


ITO is full of active members and is growing. It is a true corporation.   (1)

SSS is pretty much a one man corp. It's other member cluster81 is barely active and haven't seemed to grown. So it is hard to see it as a legitimate corporation when pretty much all of it's power is just cause of 1 member.  So while yes you raph are growing more and more in power, your inactive person isn't and you don't have any more members. There for your corp is not truly growing at all. Just you.  (1)


Now lets compare some other corps. I want other corp members to please not take any insult to this. I am not trying to insult anyone.


IMG:  Half it's members are active, 1 is semi-active and one isn't on at all.  Right now to me they barely qualify as a corp.  Now this isn't entirely Dadds fault.  It can be hard to keep players active on here.  I have had to boot quite a few inactive myself.  (1)


EOS: Well the majority of their power comes from Mata.  They got a decent amount of members. I am not really sure how active they are all though. (a)Some of their members I wonder though how well they are really helping and growing. One being icup a former member of my corp.  icpup left when Sargas started talking about leaving .  He actually left before Sargas if I remember correctly.  So he immediately bailed ship.(b)  He also isn't always too active.  Most of his growth to around his current power was due to help from my corp when he was with us.  Now while I am sure he has gotten help from EoS, before he was with us he never showed any growth really.  The guy has been around quite a while.  His player number is 908.  Which means he joined shortly before Aysle who's number is 925.  To me he never came across someone who had a lot of drive and didn't do a lot of interacting with the rest of the corp.   Then there is simoncoetzer.  Now he is a good guy and was pretty active with the corp for a while.  Then he seemed to vanish.   There is also simoncoetzer who at times has problems staying active.(c)  The rest I can't really be sure on.  I do with them the best though.  (2)


NHC: Many members but most are not very active and the ones that are don't do much to really work together. It is a failure as a corp.  (1)


None off the other corps are worthy of mention except for my own.    (3)


In my corp I have been working hard to help my members improve. Not just myself. As a result my various members have all began to grow. Just look how many are in the top 20 now. A lot of my former members are also in the top 20.  I could be selfish and just work on increasing my own stuff but that means my own members wouldn't do as well. So as a corp we would be weakened.  A good leader puts the needs of his members before his own.  Individually we may not have as much power as Raph or Mata.  But as a corp we are stronger because I work to make sure my people continue to grow and prosper.   ITO kind of reminds me of a lesser version of us.  They are working to grow as a corp together.  Their leader works to help make everyone better. Not just himself.  Given the time ITO could be as good as TGE.  Though if they will catch up to us is another matter.  Just because the differences in tech levels.  Still stranger things have happened.    (4)

(1)  In what we like to call the 'real-world', there are two types of corporations.  Sole and Multi.  Both are legal and viable entities.  Both have responsibilities and can be sued for misdeeds.  Since, Sir Emi has not changed his corporate definitions to disallow Corporations (Sole), the arguement that 'a single corporation is not a real corporation' is invalid.

(2)...
     (a)  Yes, the Sargasian Empire, an active and vibrant community (and Director Mata is indeed a big-boy)
     (b) I do not recall icpup 'leaving' PMI, I remember him being kicked out.
     (c) simon, yes... you know why he has periods of inactivity.  

(3)  That's rather arrogant. don't you think.  Just because YOU don't approve of their existence does not mean they do not exist.

(4) " I could be selfish and just work on increasing my own stuff but that means my own members wouldn't do as well"
Is that why I was only allowed control of PMI's first corporate ship (a ship I helped build) for only a few days?




(edit... to fix a possible misunderstanding...)


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: JamJulLison on March 22, 2014, 02:08:59 AM
Here is the thing when we compare SSS and ITO.


ITO is full of active members and is growing. It is a true corporation.   (1)

SSS is pretty much a one man corp. It's other member cluster81 is barely active and haven't seemed to grown. So it is hard to see it as a legitimate corporation when pretty much all of it's power is just cause of 1 member.  So while yes you raph are growing more and more in power, your inactive person isn't and you don't have any more members. There for your corp is not truly growing at all. Just you.  (1)


Now lets compare some other corps. I want other corp members to please not take any insult to this. I am not trying to insult anyone.


IMG:  Half it's members are active, 1 is semi-active and one isn't on at all.  Right now to me they barely qualify as a corp.  Now this isn't entirely Dadds fault.  It can be hard to keep players active on here.  I have had to boot quite a few inactive myself.  (1)


EOS: Well the majority of their power comes from Mata.  They got a decent amount of members. I am not really sure how active they are all though. (a)Some of their members I wonder though how well they are really helping and growing. One being icup a former member of my corp.  icpup left when Sargas started talking about leaving .  He actually left before Sargas if I remember correctly.  So he immediately bailed ship.(b)  He also isn't always too active.  Most of his growth to around his current power was due to help from my corp when he was with us.  Now while I am sure he has gotten help from EoS, before he was with us he never showed any growth really.  The guy has been around quite a while.  His player number is 908.  Which means he joined shortly before Aysle who's number is 925.  To me he never came across someone who had a lot of drive and didn't do a lot of interacting with the rest of the corp.   Then there is simoncoetzer.  Now he is a good guy and was pretty active with the corp for a while.  Then he seemed to vanish.   There is also simoncoetzer who at times has problems staying active.(c)  The rest I can't really be sure on.  I do with them the best though.  (2)


NHC: Many members but most are not very active and the ones that are don't do much to really work together. It is a failure as a corp.  (1)


None off the other corps are worthy of mention except for my own.    (3)


In my corp I have been working hard to help my members improve. Not just myself. As a result my various members have all began to grow. Just look how many are in the top 20 now. A lot of my former members are also in the top 20.  I could be selfish and just work on increasing my own stuff but that means my own members wouldn't do as well. So as a corp we would be weakened.  A good leader puts the needs of his members before his own.  Individually we may not have as much power as Raph or Mata.  But as a corp we are stronger because I work to make sure my people continue to grow and prosper.   ITO kind of reminds me of a lesser version of us.  They are working to grow as a corp together.  Their leader works to help make everyone better. Not just himself.  Given the time ITO could be as good as TGE.  Though if they will catch up to us is another matter.  Just because the differences in tech levels.  Still stranger things have happened.    (4)

(1)  In what we like to call the 'real-world', there are two types of corporations.  Sole and Multi.  Both are legal and viable entities.  Both have responsibilities and can be sued for misdeeds.  Since, Sir Emi has not changed his corporate definitions to disallow Corporations (Sole), the arguement that 'a single corporation is not a real corporation' is invalid.

(2)...
     (a)  Yes, the Sargasian Empire, an active and vibrant community (and Director Mata is indeed a big-boy)
     (b) I do not recall icpup 'leaving' PMI, I remember him being kicked out.
     (c) simon, yes... you know why he has periods of inactivity.  

(3)  That's rather arrogant. don't you think.  Just because YOU don't approve of their existence does not mean they do not exist.

(4) " I could be selfish and just work on increasing my own stuff but that means my own members wouldn't do as well"
Is that why I only was allowed control of PMI's first corporate ship (a ship I helped build) for only a few days?


1. Corporations are this game's equivalent to alliances.  I have trouble recognizing one that is just pretty much a 1 person alliance.

2. Then you recall correctly on icpup.  I didn't boot him.  He left on his own.  Not sure what the heck he told you.  As for simon, your right I do know why and I do understand. 

3. When practically every one of those others doesn't even have any active members, or just 1 that is really low ranked, they are hardly worthy of mention and really shouldn't be allowed to continue to exist. Let's look at PRQL for example. When was the last time we actually saw any of them online?

4. That ship was designed for corp leadership to use.  Namely the navy and myself for use during wartime. When we went to peacetime the navy didn't have as much use for it.  Mata had a huge income as it was and I needed a better income on COMs so I could work more on new corp ships and stuff.  When your doing most of the work on corp ships you tend to need that extra income wouldn't you agree? Also if you recall the attack timers on it were of insane length.  I would often pick up multiple COMs at a time to do.  By the time I would be done with them usually about a month or so would have gone by.  I am slowly phasing out corp SOS ships in favor of Corp COM ships and before long every member in our corp will have a Corp COM ship they can use.   Some of it is coming from stuff sin has given us.  Before he did this though everything was coming out of my very own pocket. Weapons and some engines are still coming out of my own pocket.  Once this stuff is eventually used up it will be back to using my own solars for everything on the ships.   Do you remember when I told everyone around the time you were leaving that I was taking our corp in more of a Navy direction?  This is what I was talking about.  More COM ships all around. Especially when it comes to Corp Ships.  As it stands right now only 3 of our people are still waiting on one.  I have a big one I am testing out now that I am going to give to sauron to use.  Bob and Solvae are the other two still waiting.  I went from order of lowest to highest. Only reason Sauron is getting this one here is cause he is doing some work on a special top secret corp ship we are working on.  Of course this one he is getting isn't one of the Corp COM ships. But our newest Corp Command Ship.  TGE Command #3.   Soon I will begin work on Solvae's ship.  It is just a matter of finding time when I got days off work and stuff to get it going.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: sargas on March 22, 2014, 03:10:31 AM



1. Corporations are this game's equivalent to alliances.  I have trouble recognizing one that is just pretty much a 1 person alliance.

2. Then you recall correctly on icpup.  I didn't boot him.  He left on his own.  Not sure what the heck he told you.  As for simon, your right I do know why and I do understand. 

3. When practically every one of those others doesn't even have any active members, or just 1 that is really low ranked, they are hardly worthy of mention and really shouldn't be allowed to continue to exist. Let's look at PRQL for example. When was the last time we actually saw any of them online?

4. That ship was designed for corp leadership to use.(a)  Namely the navy and myself for use during wartime. When we went to peacetime the navy didn't have as much use for it.  Mata had a huge income as it was and I needed a better income on COMs so I could work more on new corp ships and stuff.  When your doing most of the work on corp ships you tend to need that extra income wouldn't you agree? Also if you recall the attack timers on it were of insane length.  I would often pick up multiple COMs at a time to do.  By the time I would be done with them usually about a month or so would have gone by.(b)  I am slowly phasing out corp SOS ships in favor of Corp COM ships and before long every member in our corp will have a Corp COM ship they can use.   Some of it is coming from stuff sin has given us.  Before he did this though everything was coming out of my very own pocket.(c) Weapons and some engines are still coming out of my own pocket.  Once this stuff is eventually used up it will be back to using my own solars for everything on the ships.   Do you remember when I told everyone around the time you were leaving that I was taking our corp in more of a Navy direction?  This is what I was talking about.  More COM ships all around. Especially when it comes to Corp Ships.  As it stands right now only 3 of our people are still waiting on one.  I have a big one I am testing out now that I am going to give to sauron to use.  Bob and Solvae are the other two still waiting.  I went from order of lowest to highest. Only reason Sauron is getting this one here is cause he is doing some work on a special top secret corp ship we are working on.  Of course this one he is getting isn't one of the Corp COM ships. But our newest Corp Command Ship.  TGE Command #3.   Soon I will begin work on Solvae's ship.  It is just a matter of finding time when I got days off work and stuff to get it going.

1. Please define your your interpretation of corporation/alliance.
       I see a corporation; and then I see a corporation allying with another corporation to form an alliance.  The two (corporation/alliance) are not interchangable.

2.  As I now recall (yeah, yeah, I know...)he left while the PMI leaders were discussing his dismissal (I do remember saying his only neg was his lack in communication).

3.  Still...   (DUDE, it's called respect.  You have declared yourself (at least to me)to be a diplomat.  This stance is hardly diplomatic.

4. 
     a.  To which leaders do you refer?  As I recall, we were three.  You, the co-leader (and later leader), Mata, and myself.
     b.  What I remember most about this is when I came into 'your battle' to upgrade the weapons on our first ship was this:  I took control of the corporate ship, added railgun module(s), reset your attack timer, and used my QP to advance the attack --- your response was "I wanted to do it myself"...
     c.  Do you not remember the time that I built engines for one of your little corp. ships only to be told "I wanted to do that myself"?
         


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: JamJulLison on March 22, 2014, 03:24:43 AM



1. Corporations are this game's equivalent to alliances.  I have trouble recognizing one that is just pretty much a 1 person alliance.

2. Then you recall correctly on icpup.  I didn't boot him.  He left on his own.  Not sure what the heck he told you.  As for simon, your right I do know why and I do understand. 

3. When practically every one of those others doesn't even have any active members, or just 1 that is really low ranked, they are hardly worthy of mention and really shouldn't be allowed to continue to exist. Let's look at PRQL for example. When was the last time we actually saw any of them online?

4. That ship was designed for corp leadership to use.(a)  Namely the navy and myself for use during wartime. When we went to peacetime the navy didn't have as much use for it.  Mata had a huge income as it was and I needed a better income on COMs so I could work more on new corp ships and stuff.  When your doing most of the work on corp ships you tend to need that extra income wouldn't you agree? Also if you recall the attack timers on it were of insane length.  I would often pick up multiple COMs at a time to do.  By the time I would be done with them usually about a month or so would have gone by.(b)  I am slowly phasing out corp SOS ships in favor of Corp COM ships and before long every member in our corp will have a Corp COM ship they can use.   Some of it is coming from stuff sin has given us.  Before he did this though everything was coming out of my very own pocket.(c) Weapons and some engines are still coming out of my own pocket.  Once this stuff is eventually used up it will be back to using my own solars for everything on the ships.   Do you remember when I told everyone around the time you were leaving that I was taking our corp in more of a Navy direction?  This is what I was talking about.  More COM ships all around. Especially when it comes to Corp Ships.  As it stands right now only 3 of our people are still waiting on one.  I have a big one I am testing out now that I am going to give to sauron to use.  Bob and Solvae are the other two still waiting.  I went from order of lowest to highest. Only reason Sauron is getting this one here is cause he is doing some work on a special top secret corp ship we are working on.  Of course this one he is getting isn't one of the Corp COM ships. But our newest Corp Command Ship.  TGE Command #3.   Soon I will begin work on Solvae's ship.  It is just a matter of finding time when I got days off work and stuff to get it going.

1. Please define your your interpretation of corporation/alliance.
       I see a corporation; and then I see a corporation allying with another corporation to form an alliance.  The two (corporation/alliance) are not interchangable.

2.  As I now recall (yeah, yeah, I know...)he left while the PMI leaders were discussing his dismissal (I do remember saying his only neg was his lack in communication).

3.  Still...   (DUDE, it's called respect.  You have declared yourself (at least to me)to be a diplomat.  This stance is hardly diplomatic.

4. 
     a.  To which leaders do you refer?  As I recall, we were three.  You, the co-leader (and later leader), Mata, and myself.
     b.  What I remember most about this is when I came into 'your battle' to upgrade the weapons on our first ship was this:  I took control of the corporate ship, added railgun module(s), reset your attack timer, and used my QP to advance the attack --- your response was "I wanted to do it myself"...
     c.  Do you not remember the time that I built engines for one of your little corp. ships only to be told "I wanted to do that myself"?
         


1.  In most games they have what are called either Alliances of Guilds. This is the only game I have ever played where they have been called Corporations.

2. We never were discussing his dismissal.  He left around the time you were thinking about leaving. I think I seem to recall him vanishing shortly after one of my post about taking our corp in a navy direction.

3. If they were more active and actually were showing signs of growth I would show them more respect.

4. a. Corp Command ships were designed for all 3 of us to use if we needed to. But priority for it's usage during war time would have been me and Mata (he was navy leader).  I already explained the need for extra income during peace times.  If you had stayed with us as we went through our change you would be getting a corp com ship made for you. Hell you would already have command of one of our Corp Command Ships.  The change in direction was needed so that there wouldn't be a need to pass around one large ship between our members.

   b.  lol that instance was because I had wanted to see the battle for myself.  Not from a 2nd hand report from someone else.  I wasn't too mad though and was only half joking with you when I got on to you about it.  I admit I was a tad annoyed.

   c. That is because I like being able to do things for the corp myself.  While I appreciate help when given, I sometimes get to where I feel like i need to do it all myself. Even when I don't need to. I am a bit OCD about it.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: sargas on March 22, 2014, 05:03:45 AM
1.  This is not 'most games', this is a specific game.  Corporations and Alliances are seperate entities.

2.  Yes, he left while we were discussing his status...

3.  ...more respect...?...?...you give each and all the same respect (especially if you consider yourself to be the only diplomat in the corp.)

4. 

a.  Where did it say that?  During war, yes, you and the Naval Commander can have the ship.  However, in peacetime it needed to go back to the  original shared condition.

b./c.  Give it a break.  Every time I advanced the 'Corporate Ship' I was told "I WANTED TO DO IT MYSELF!"

So go ahead and try to convince yourself that someone else was wrong...


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: JamJulLison on March 22, 2014, 06:33:13 PM
1.  This is not 'most games', this is a specific game.  Corporations and Alliances are seperate entities.

2.  Yes, he left while we were discussing his status...

3.  ...more respect...?...?...you give each and all the same respect (especially if you consider yourself to be the only diplomat in the corp.)

4. 

a.  Where did it say that?  During war, yes, you and the Naval Commander can have the ship.  However, in peacetime it needed to go back to the  original shared condition.

b./c.  Give it a break.  Every time I advanced the 'Corporate Ship' I was told "I WANTED TO DO IT MYSELF!"

So go ahead and try to convince yourself that someone else was wrong...


1. Corperations are just what this game calls it's alliances/guilds.  Simple as that.  This isn't like forming an alliance with another corp.  Calling a group of people in one group an Alliance is very common in games.  It is the same thing just under a different name.  But I can understand your way of thinking.  After all I can't expect the older generations to have played as many online games as I have.   Hell in other games I have run Alliances.   Think of it like this.  In Star Wars the rebels were part of what was called The Rebel Alliance. They had leaders.   Essentually they were one orginization made up of a bunch of people.   There were those allied with the Rebel Alliance that were not a part of the Rebel Alliance.  Do you see how now the word Alliance in it can have 2 different meanings?

2.  It was never his status we were discussing.  It was the our corp itself we were discussing and it was on our corp forum.  If we had been discussing his status we would have been doing it in private message or in the leader only are of our forum as to not cause problems.   Something which didn't happen.

3.  I treat my members with respect.  I show Dadds respect.  I show TheCommander aka JoolzVern respect.  I do try to be respectful.  Especially to those who have earned my respect.  I even try to show you some.  Respect has nothing to do with how I see these 1 person corps and corps with nothing but inactive people in them.  Look at the top corp list.  The majority of those don't have any active players at all.  If the people aren't active then the corp might as well not exist.

4.
 a. I needed it for the extra income for making more corp ships. Simple as that. Mata didn't really need it by that point. You mostly mined.  I needed the money to work on our corp ships. Which I explained to you already but you seem to not be getting.  Yes you did some upgrades but with the vast majority of the stuff coming out of my pocket, i needed it more.  I wish I had taken us in a navy direction sooner. Then instead of wasting money on corp SOS ships and stuff, we would have had more Corp COM ships to go around and you would have had an extra one to use.  Of course you likely would have left the moment I announced a change in direction.

 b. Most of the time you started doing it without even asking first.  I already explained I have an OCD about doing this stuff myself.  I like helping out our corp.  Is it a crime for the leader to actually want to do the stuff himself for the corp?  I hate asking any of my members to provide something for corp ships. Just because I don't want to hold back their progress and prefer to do it on my own.




Title: Re: ITO
Post by: Matamaure001 on March 22, 2014, 11:49:59 PM
JJL, since you took the initiative of evaluating other corp, I would like to rectify some things.

How do you evaluate a leader that loose all his bigger members: Matamaure 200 mil, sargas 20 mil, sinaarrgghh 100 mil, Gronk 20 mil.

About the big corp ships: I build about 95% of that ship that was supposed to go from one member to an other every 2-3 weeks. Once you got your hand on it you did not want to release control of it. I was infuriated by that (Sargas and others have participated for the remaining 5%). Once I upgraded it to a 18 mil. monster ship at the time, I told you it was low on shields, not to go battle with it. You did it anyway and lost the battle.

Corp ships: Hanuman and me built many of them.

Your power (what you did and not what you got from others): actual: about 150 mil, lets remove 100 mil comming from sinaarrgghh, lets remove about 20 mil comming from me and other players. Your real power, done by you: between 30 and 40 mil. Raphael is about 20 times bigger and is a newer player.  30 and 40 mil in not bad but notthing to brag about. You lost your time pirating when it does not pay. You are strong in words and poor in actions.

You are free to play the game the way you want: true. Stop bragging and stop looking at the others. Start looking at yourself.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: JamJulLison on March 23, 2014, 02:16:55 AM
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JJL, since you took the initiative of evaluating other corp, I would like to rectify some things.

How do you evaluate a leader that loose all his bigger members: Matamaure 200 mil, sargas 20 mil, sinaarrgghh 100 mil, Gronk 20 mil.

Sargas actually only has 14,647,039.  He has only gained about 4 mill since he left the corp. The loss of all these members came at the time when Sargas had already decided he wanted to form his own corp. Which I was fine with.  The thing is I didn't lose you, Gronk or Sin until after I announced the change of directions for the corp.  Gronk never really expressed much for his reasons for leaving but he now has a 1 man corp and it is hard to say what he is really doing.  Sin left because he didn't like our taxes (even after he was one of the ones that voted for the tax increase).  He also had been growing bored with the game and thought that perhaps by going out on his own with his own corp things might be more fun. But they weren't so he decided to quit.  Unlike you and Sargas though he hasn't tried to stir things up either.  We maintained a friendship and things were fine until he decided to quit.  He was nice enough to offer us our stuff too. He didn't even make me promise to share it with our members.  He would have been fine with me keeping it all. But I decided not to because I want to help the people in our corp.  Yes losing you guys was a loss for us but crap happens. We are still doing well.

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About the big corp ships: I build about 95% of that ship that was supposed to go from one member to an other every 2-3 weeks. Once you got your hand on it you did not want to release control of it. I was infuriated by that (Sargas and others have participated for the remaining 5%). Once I upgraded it to a 18 mil. monster ship at the time, I told you it was low on shields, not to go battle with it. You did it anyway and lost the battle.

And the plan changed when I realized how how rediculasly large the timers were.  As for once you upgraded it.  No you did not warn me not to take it into battle.  Heck even after I did it was fine except for one battle.  Mistakes do happen though. 

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Corp ships: Hanuman and me built many of them.

You both put in some work.  Thing is what Hanuman helped with was a few SOS ships the ones he worked out ended up being crappy and had to be upgraded to be usable.  Yes you did help out with some SOS ships and some other corp ships.  I have never denied it. That is one of the reasons I didn't ask for your help much for any other ships I worked on for our corp.  You had done so much for the corp and I didn't want to ask you for more help.  The only thing I really asked you to make for corp ships after that was on occasion some cargo bays if I recall.  That was simply because you had the better tech.  The engines and everything else I would make and put on there.  Most of what we got now really are not cause of you.  Though I still appreciate everything you did do for us.


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Your power (what you did and not what you got from others): actual: about 150 mil, lets remove 100 mil comming from sinaarrgghh, lets remove about 20 mil comming from me and other players. Your real power, done by you: between 30 and 40 mil. Raphael is about 20 times bigger and is a newer player.  30 and 40 mil in not bad but notthing to brag about. You lost your time pirating when it does not pay. You are strong in words and poor in actions.

You are free to play the game the way you want: true. Stop bragging and stop looking at the others. Start looking at yourself.

I am not going to deny some of my power coming from others.  I never have.  Though I haven't even finished deviding up all of Sin's stuff yet. Nor is it all active. Some of his stuff I got boosted from is from 2 titans he filled up with mostly marines that he didn't want to get rid of the personel off of so the money to hire them wouldn't have been wasted.  There is still a crap ton more marines in the storage ship along with loads of other stuff I am putting into our corp ships.  Only thing not there is vipers since he switched over to marine ships.  Hell Marines is where he ended up getting a lot of his power from.  Just like raph.  You can't really compare raph to me since his initial power came from marine ships loaded with them and shields.  He has begun building pvp ships but so far he hasn't had a lot of success with them.  He has had a little but so far we have had more victories over them then he has had over any of us.  Now you say though that 20 mill comes from you?  Maybe once apon a time but not anymore.  The shields on Command #1 have been completely replaced. As has the cargos and pretty much everything else. You can't take credit for the 4 MK M marines on there since those aren't even the original ones.   The originals you robbed the corp ship of just prior to leaving our corp without any prior notice at all.  Sargas is the reason we have those on there now. He made sure we got those 4 MK Ms.  We didn't get back everything that was taken but it was satifactury and I thank Sargas for that.  Not you.   I never made a brag saying I don't owe anyone for my success.  This doesn't make me a bad leader either.   I am using the tools that were given to me to help make everyone in TGE better. Not just myself if I could.  Let's say Raph were given all this stuff? Do you think he would share with his corp? Somehow I doubt it.  Being a good leader means more then just being the best player in the game or the one with the highest power.  Look at the number of failed corps in the game.  Even NHC is just a shell of it's former self.  When they lost their leadership they just fell apart.  When I realized I was going to lose Sargas I realized just how a change of direction was needed for the corp. After all I was losing my mining leader.  It is course led to some other big people leaving as well.  But because of the change of direction I took us,  we are still going strong.   ITO lost their leader but their new leader has done a decent job holding things together.  So it has a real chance of becoming a good corp.  IMG if it can recover from it's recent slump could become good again.  I am still a bit sceptical about EoS.  It is nothing personal.  Your corp is still too new to really be sure on how it will turn out.  I do wish you all well though.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: Dadds on March 23, 2014, 09:22:31 PM
Do i smell dirty laundry again? What has this topic got to do with bounty hunting?
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IMG if it can recover from it's recent slump could become good again.
OH, we are in a slump? you want to test your best against mine again JamJul? I will bring HMS VENGEANCE to the party next time if you think my corp is in a slump and not really good.
IMG is exactly where it is because of the game mechanics and i am happy with where it is for the moment. The founding members for their own personal reasons dont play anymore (points at game mechanics) and sadly had to be let loose as we ramped up our war efforts vs outlaws. I dont actively recruit because of ongoing war and battle issues and it wouldnt be fair to introduce new players to the sort of nastiness that is involved with a battle fleet. My doors, as always, are always open to the right candidate (in particular miners) who want to escape to the outer reaches. At least in my corp not one member has ever quit to form their own.
As Matamure suggests: Dont go comparing other corps as to their value or merit, JamJul-Lison. I have already demonstrated to "Grand-Admiral" Raphael that power doesnt make you a top player(OK it puts you on top of the list but that is where it ends) or a top leader. I can quite easily show you those lessons. Hopefully you would learn from them, unlike the aforementioned pilot


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: JamJulLison on March 23, 2014, 11:29:06 PM
Do i smell dirty laundry again? What has this topic got to do with bounty hunting?
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IMG if it can recover from it's recent slump could become good again.
OH, we are in a slump? you want to test your best against mine again JamJul? I will bring HMS VENGEANCE to the party next time if you think my corp is in a slump and not really good.
IMG is exactly where it is because of the game mechanics and i am happy with where it is for the moment. The founding members for their own personal reasons dont play anymore (points at game mechanics) and sadly had to be let loose as we ramped up our war efforts vs outlaws. I dont actively recruit because of ongoing war and battle issues and it wouldnt be fair to introduce new players to the sort of nastiness that is involved with a battle fleet. My doors, as always, are always open to the right candidate (in particular miners) who want to escape to the outer reaches. At least in my corp not one member has ever quit to form their own.
As Matamure suggests: Dont go comparing other corps as to their value or merit, JamJul-Lison. I have already demonstrated to "Grand-Admiral" Raphael that power doesnt make you a top player(OK it puts you on top of the list but that is where it ends) or a top leader. I can quite easily show you those lessons. Hopefully you would learn from them, unlike the aforementioned pilot


That is your power you would be bringing to the table though. Not the corp.  I wasn't trying to insult you either.  But IMG has been in a slump as a whole.  It used to have a lot more members. It's 2nd in command keeps going MIA. Until Jake returned you were down to 3 members.  You being active, the MIA Aysle and a semi-active KristenMueller.  At this point you now have Jake who has returned and is currently active.  You may not want to admit it but IMG did go into a bit of a slump. One it is still recovering from.  It wasn't really your fault though.  The lack of updates and people getting bored are the primary reasons for it.   My opinions I expressed here on each of the corps are just how it looks to me.  It doesn't mean I am entirely right on everything I say.  Though it seems that rather then take it as a grain of salt people would rather take it personal.   I am not going to pretend like my own corp is perfect.  It isn't.  Losing our top people was a huge blow to us. We almost fell into a slump ourselves. But we have recovered and we have begun training up newer players to become stronger and better skilled.  I am sure some of my people will make mistakes as they are learning.  We all have at one time or another.  So don't get mad when someone points out things they see wrong.  Accept they have their opinion, evaluate it and see if maybe there is a small chance they could be right and if they are, work to fix that issue.  Sometimes it takes an outside opinion to see what we on the inside might be missing.  Dadds you yourself saw the flaws in PMI before our change of direction. You even pointed them out to me.   It helped me to begin to rethink perhaps the direction our corp should go in.

Now with everything said and done let's just stop this pointless bickering.  I am sure Raph is getting a big laugh at reading it all.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: sargas on March 24, 2014, 12:19:35 AM
I know that I am.


...giggle...


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: Matamaure001 on March 24, 2014, 12:39:57 AM
At least there is something happening, the last weeks have been indredibly dull.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: JoolzVern on March 24, 2014, 01:19:59 AM
Well fist off, I think Jam is perfectly right to point out that there are big differences in the make up and vigor of the various corps and I would agree that because of these there is a certain growth curve and potential. And a one man army has only so much time and can only be in maybe three or four places at once lol.

As to IMG's 'slump' I think Jam has his own perspective and from my talks with him it may be skewed but I think he tries to be objective. I don't think he's 'ragging' on anybody here.

I haven't been paying attention to IMG or any other corps growth rate but I know that our ship power was at about 5mil or less when Jazz left. Fenix had already left and made his own corp for RL reasons and we were left with myself, FreezeLove, Cornedo, and two inactive players- Jazzbob who I've still not let go of(ship pwr1.7mil)and XenGuard.

Well Xen is on now and then so he's semi-active but since then we've recruited four other players that have been active daily and one that has been inactive bringing us to a 70-80% active player corp. This and this thing called teamwork and working together to build new players' ships and corp com ships has brought us up over 11mil ship power and our treasury grows faster as we get more players and ships.

So I think that from this perspective Jam is mostly correct that IMG and SSS aren't corps in the sense of being a team and that there is only so much groth potential one player can muster. I mean Raph can play all day 6mo. but if we get 20 active players and maintain a tight team we might still eventually overtake him.

Other than that all the bickering is just that. You guys are all good guys and leaders and I know this about Jam better than any other. I think you guys just need to chill and see each others point of view- including Jam lol. I think IMG/Dadds and Sargas are all good players and have good strong corps I would proudly assist and work with just as I would TGE but I can't exactly fault Jam's assessment either other than being the critical guy he is and seeing faults and calling them as he perceives them.

As to Mata's comment about the splintering of PMI I think we need to understand how much of that is misunderstandings, over-reacting, differences of opinion, etc. It happens. And sure Jam's faults as a leader and communicator may contribute but we all have some of those. I think it's not always enough to be a good leader when people are stubborn or misinformed or just have a difference of opinion or some other issue outside his control.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: JamJulLison on March 24, 2014, 01:26:06 AM
I do see it from his view.  I have had others give me their honest opinions about my corp at various stages of our corps lifespan.   I didn't let myself get worked up cause they saw something about my corp that was wrong that I didn't see.  Sometimes they were right. Other times wrong. But I didn't get too worked up over it.  Also  I never once said IMG sucks which is how Dadds seems to be taking it now.  He messaged me pretty much threatening me to post a retraction about what I said about IMG or else.   TGE has no intentions of breaking our NAP with IMG.  So we won't take any preemptive action against IMG.  I just hope Dadds can calm down and some to his senses.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: Dadds on March 24, 2014, 03:41:36 AM
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So I think that from this perspective Jam is mostly correct that IMG and SSS aren't corps in the sense of being a team and that there is only so much growth potential one player can muster. I mean Raph can play all day 6mo. but if we get 20 active players and maintain a tight team we might still eventually overtake him.
WoW howdy!. OK since you are a newbie, Joolz, i will give you, as i offered JamJul, 1 chance to retract yet another defamatory comment toward my corporation. i am in war mood, adding you to it will just be a slight deviation.

My PERSONAL comments with Jamjul about my or our opinions towards each other corps are just that, personal. Jamjul wishes to air his thoughts about how IMG are slumped, and now you wish to weigh in and suggest that we are not a corps?
Heck, i have just changed my mind.
Joolz, consider IMG also at war against you.
Anyone else want to comment on my corp? Please feel free, Freedom of speech, expression, its good for the soul. It is going to hit you hard in the pocket though.
I will declare GC disfunct and your 11million powered corp will vaporise as i pass it by.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: JamJulLison on March 24, 2014, 04:13:36 AM
*sigh*  Dadds you really need to chill out.  Just because someone has an opinion you don't like doesn't mean you should go to war with them.  Your request of a retraction by me was in the form of a threat.  Perhaps if you had asked nicely I would have at least considered a retraction.


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[IMG] Dadds(#862)
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i would suggest making a retraction to your statement on the forums about my corp. in fact, if you are such a good leader, i highly recommend it. what do i know though, i am a slumping corp


Not everyone is going to have the same opinion and sometimes we don't like what the other person has to say. But that doesn't mean you start a war either.  Instead of getting up in arms take a deep breath, sleep on the issue and then take another look at it in the morning and try to see things from other people's points of view. You have said multiple times that 1 man does not make a good corp. You have said it plenty about SSS and have mentioned it about the lesser corps as well.  Fact is you don't got many people right now. 1 is semi-active. One just came back to being active. Hard to tell if he will stay that way just yet. Then another is inactive because of personal reasons taking him away from the game for long periods of the game at a time. You are pretty much carrying the entire corp. Compared to what IMG once was, it is in a slump. Yes you are much stronger now. But the rest aren't much stronger and haven't been doing a whole lot.   This doesn't mean you are weak.  This doesn't mean IMG is weak.  It doesn't mean IMG can't get out of the slump.   But if this was any other corp in the same situation, you yourself would admit they are in a slump or at least were.  It is only when it is said about your corp you get angry over it and ready to attack others.  I understand no one likes to hear someone talk crap about their corp.  I wasn't even trying to talk crap.  Perhaps I hit a soft spot though when I spoke what I believe to be the truth.  Perhaps you know we are right and just don't want to be told it.  Yes you yourself could bash along ITO and could bash along pretty much all of my corp. But that isn't your corp doing so.  That is you doing so. That only proves your strength Dadds, not the corp's.  So how about instead of lashing out at us, you take that energy you got built up from that anger and use it to work on improving the corp itself.  To helping it grow larger and stronger.  I didn't post any of my opinions to insult anyone. Rather instead to express my opinions and possibly give those reading it a chance to maybe see how an outsider see's their corp.  If there is something negative said, learn what is wrong with the corp and work to build it.  Sometimes it takes an outsider to see what we can not see ourselves or at least admit to ourselves.  


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: JoolzVern on March 24, 2014, 04:24:28 AM
I made no defamatory remarks. Your corp is not a team and in that sense a true corp from Jam's objective perspective and I can't say as I disagree with his view of the difference between a corporation and a guy with a few employees and many absentees or something. I am not making any judgment on IMG, just saying that this is his view of IMG and I think if you want to act like that's defamatory and go ape then I think you are over-reacting and being a jerk and that's not going to make Jam self-censor his opinions simply because you think they make you look bad or whatever.

I think you are a better leader than that and should be able to resolve your differences without just flipping out. We should be working together and I think you should take his criticisms as constructive, but cold and strict rather than defamatory.

If however, you want to go to war because I think you are over-reacting then just keep over-reacting. In doing so you defame yourself and IMG- making prospective recruits reconsider joining because you are impulsive or sensitive or whatever. In addition you get Jam and Raph and us and everybody into a mexican stand-off just because you wanna go berserker on us.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on March 24, 2014, 05:01:27 AM
IMG has long been in a slump!!!

If i had known sooner that such a simple statement would make Dadds go all crazy, I would've said it a lot sooner!  :))


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: JoolzVern on March 24, 2014, 02:38:48 PM
IMG has long been in a slump!!!

If i had known sooner that such a simple statement would make Dadds go all crazy, I would've said it a lot sooner!  :))

 :))

Yeah I would have expected him to just sort of do like I did with you and say "Hey now Jam, we're actually doing pretty good from my view" in his own way instead of going bananas.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: Dadds on April 01, 2014, 02:55:36 PM
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Yeah I would have expected him to just sort of do like I did with you and say "Hey now Jam, we're actually doing pretty good from my view" in his own way instead of going bananas.

my pilot reports over 100 battles in 5 days of activity. Hey we are doing quite well from my point of view.
I am pursuing targets myself. Not bad for a slumping corp. My corp is exactly where i want it to be and anyone who wishes to test that, come and test us out. I know that jamjul cant stand against me. Raphael will stand due to the long counter, but then move on just to sap up time. Not one of you can face my corp in battle, but you all have an opinion on how poorly it goes. I dont care what raphael says, i have beaten him more times than i can count on 2 hands, so he is pretty boring to fight. I expected better from supposed allies. You want to test my corp out in battle to see if it is slumped? Go ahead, be my guest. A word of advice to ITO, dont get involved in a personal fight between me and JamJul because you can guarantee i will target you also, as has happened.
As of yet IMG hasnt moved against your outposts. It is extremely likely it will happen soon. Make no mistake, i make a much deadlier enemy than anything raphael can muster.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: JamJulLison on April 01, 2014, 07:25:08 PM
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I expected better from supposed allies.


For some reason I expected better then you too.   While I should have expected this, I thought maybe you actually did in fact think of us as allies and wouldn't declare war on us just because we have an opinion you don't like.  I intention was never to slander you.  But there was no way I was going to post a retraction to your "request" when you are implying in it that if I don't do something you will attack us. You know I don't respond well to threats.  So I can only assume you sent me those "request" to help satisfy your own ego so that you would feel justified in some way in declaring war on TGE.   Of course then when ITO post their opinions, which weren't slanderous, you decided to declare war on them too. Yes me and Joolz chat sometimes and have become friends. But we haven't conspired against you behind your back like you seem to think.  ITO has been pretty peaceful since it was formed and seems to have remained that way after Joolz became the leader. Yet you turn on them over simply because you didn't like what Joolz had to say.   Keep in mind something from the last war.  Remember how you guys grew as a result of it.  ITO too can grow faster from the result of this one.  I suppose the one good thing that might come from this is they might finally join us as at the top.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on April 02, 2014, 12:38:48 AM
my pilot reports over 100 battles in 5 days of activity. Hey we are doing quite well from my point of view.
I am pursuing targets myself. Not bad for a slumping corp. My corp is exactly where i want it to be and anyone who wishes to test that, come and test us out. I know that jamjul cant stand against me. Raphael will stand due to the long counter, but then move on just to sap up time. Not one of you can face my corp in battle, but you all have an opinion on how poorly it goes. I dont care what raphael says, i have beaten him more times than i can count on 2 hands, so he is pretty boring to fight. I expected better from supposed allies. You want to test my corp out in battle to see if it is slumped? Go ahead, be my guest. A word of advice to ITO, dont get involved in a personal fight between me and JamJul because you can guarantee i will target you also, as has happened.
As of yet IMG hasnt moved against your outposts. It is extremely likely it will happen soon. Make no mistake, i make a much deadlier enemy than anything raphael can muster.

You don't care what I say because you are obviously in a disadvantage. Your attacks did nothing but feed your deranged mind. You never did any meaningful damage to me, whereas i have dealt MANY HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF SOLARS OF DAMAGE to you. Any sane mind would choose my side of the war over yours. Also, only ONE SHIP of yours called vengeance is strong (not many ships and definitely not all ships), so you can stop yapping about how great your ships are. LOL Remember the ships you lent to jake vs my predator? predator won decisively, and it was 1 vs 5. And it was even a weaker predator--now it's stronger. it only had advanced shields mk C then, now has mk CL, but will have mk CC on friday. All your other ships will fall before my predator, and it's only a matter of time until my predator will defeat vengeance as well. so keep celebrating while you still can. Time is running out, brat. better find a rock in the outer rings to hide. Tick tock. :))


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: JamJulLison on April 02, 2014, 06:51:11 AM
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Any sane mind would choose my side of the war over yours.


Of course I didn't choose to side with you.  I was happy to have IMG as an ally and continue hunting you. But of course my hand has been forced by Dadds. 

No Dadds this isn't me admitting I am on Raph's side.  Cause i'm not.  I am just not on your side anymore and that is no one's fault but yourself.  Of course I imagine you will continue to think otherwise.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on April 02, 2014, 09:23:17 AM
Of course I didn't choose to side with you.  I was happy to have IMG as an ally and continue hunting you. But of course my hand has been forced by Dadds. 

You misunderstood. I meant SSS vs IMG, no other corps included. Any sane mind would rather be in my shoes (side) rather than IMG's.

I don't care about other corps, and I don't need anyone to be on my side. Also, the only thing you were "hunting" for many months now were my unguarded labs, nothing else. LOL


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: Dadds on April 02, 2014, 01:29:28 PM
so why didnt you hang around for my mini ships combat raphael? vs SCORPION? oh....wait...i know. Scared as usual. I advised Jake on the situation on what is needed to take you out. He is back and wanted to test stuff out himself, so be it. As you state, no real damage done but it gave him a feel for what we are going up against.
I knew the numbers where not going to be a win for him. I know though, i have the numbers to beat you personally, and you also acknowledge that.
You all talk big, while taking out small targets. Not one of you has the ability to take me on lol. I dont care about the past you so love to dwell in.  That was months ago that you hit my science planet after a tip off. Since then you have kept on losing, losing, losing, losing hahaha.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: JoolzVern on April 02, 2014, 02:40:41 PM
Dadds, if your corp is doing so well, then there's no reason to make 'a personal fight' out of someone voicing their opinion that you're not doing so well. You could have just said what you did about doing fine, and left it at that.

If you want to make a 'personal fight' out of me telling you that going to war over it is childish and despicable, then that's your problem as the rest of us can take criticism without getting violent like a little kid. That's like punching your friend because he said your poor eye-hand coordination is hampering your performance in a game.

As I said to Sargas in regards to people being called a coward, if it's true then they're right and you should be able to accept it and try to improve, and if they're wrong, you shouldn't care what they say because they don't know what they're talking about.  Either way making a fight out of it is senseless.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on April 02, 2014, 07:39:54 PM
Well, the truth hurts so much that Dadds has gone crazy. He couldn't accept the fact that his corp is just a has-been, and is waging war against many corps to make himself feel important again. He is desperate for attention. He thinks a 15M com ship would have to wait for 90 hours even though its COM mission is finished, and for what? to prove that it has courage facing two ships with total power of 4M? LOL Crazy right there.

His age should be five, not fifty. Haha Pretty much a waste of time talking to a foolish ancient.  :))


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: Dadds on April 03, 2014, 12:16:11 PM
My point exactly Raphael. i have 4M power, you have 15M power...so why didnt you want to push the point and score a win vs my poor fleet? You all talk about wanting the opportunity to try to beat me as often as you can, and there is a real chance to "beat me" since i gave you such good odds. Instead you run away from it. Har har har. Big tough talkers. You say i talk too much, at least i can back it up in the field. You just all whine and blather and cry....Did you want better odds again? what like 1:255 or something?


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on April 03, 2014, 08:19:36 PM
My point exactly Raphael. i have 4M power, you have 15M power...so why didnt you want to push the point and score a win vs my poor fleet? You all talk about wanting the opportunity to try to beat me as often as you can, and there is a real chance to "beat me" since i gave you such good odds. Instead you run away from it. Har har har. Big tough talkers. You say i talk too much, at least i can back it up in the field. You just all whine and blather and cry....Did you want better odds again? what like 1:255 or something?

Why I did that? It's because I'm not desperate at winning meaningless battles, unlike you. It was a COM ship, so why wait for 90 hours when I can earn a lot during the meantime? Like I said before, you never did any meaningful damage to me--that's why you are so hungry and desperate at winning even the most insignificant battles (and flaunt it to everyone too,LOL). You state it here as if I have never beaten you in battle, when in fact I did. Stating as if I only fight when the odds are in my favor is also something from your deranged mind. Haha

The only "big tough talker" here is you, Dadds. You starting "hunting" me even before I reached 1M power. Now I have almost 600M. You announced to everyone that you will stop me. But where has it gotten you now? Nowhere. It's only a matter of time until I overtake you in every aspect of the game. You failed at "leading" your corp. You failed at stopping me. Guess failing is the only thing you're good at. LOL


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: Dadds on April 07, 2014, 12:47:51 PM
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Actions speak louder than words
i will add to that quote that "Actions speak even louder than my words LOL"
Witness all, my PvP ship vs Raphael PvP ship and see it in action.
S/Epsilon Eridani E1
 
Defender opened fire!

[SSS] Predator Vs. HMS Vengeance
Weapons assault
HMS Vengeance maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
HMS Vengeance attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using standard mode.
Light hit on target, doing 455400 damage!
[SSS] Predator attacks with Viper Squadron MK D using wall formation.
Target dodged the incoming attack!

HMS Vengeance maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
HMS Vengeance attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using pulse mode.
Minor hit on target, doing 227700 damage!
[SSS] Predator attacks with Viper Squadron MK D using wall formation.
Direct hit on target, doing 379138 damage!

HMS Vengeance maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
HMS Vengeance attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using standard mode.
Excellent hit on target, doing 759000 damage!
[SSS] Predator attacks with Viper Squadron MK D using wall formation.
Critical hit on target, doing 673393 damage!

HMS Vengeance maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
HMS Vengeance attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using standard mode.
Light hit on target, doing 379500 damage!
[SSS] Predator attacks with Viper Squadron MK D using wall formation.
Direct hit on target, doing 373478 damage!

HMS Vengeance maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
HMS Vengeance attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using standard mode.
Direct hit on target, doing 692588 damage!
[SSS] Predator attacks with Viper Squadron MK D using wall formation.
Excellent hit on target, doing 464018 damage!

[SSS] Predator maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
[SSS] Predator attacks with Viper Squadron MK D using wall formation.
Critical hit on target, doing 577193 damage!
HMS Vengeance attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using standard mode.
Hit on target, doing 540788 damage!

HMS Vengeance maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
HMS Vengeance attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using standard mode.
Hit on target, doing 540788 damage!
[SSS] Predator attacks with Viper Squadron MK D using wall formation.
Hit on target, doing 288598 damage!

HMS Vengeance maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
HMS Vengeance attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using pulse mode.
Minor hit on target, doing 352935 damage!
[SSS] Predator attacks with Viper Squadron MK D using wall formation.
Critical hit on target, doing 696028 damage!

HMS Vengeance maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
HMS Vengeance attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using standard mode.
Hit on target, doing 493350 damage!
[SSS] Predator attacks with Viper Squadron MK D using wall formation.
Excellent hit on target, doing 509288 damage!

HMS Vengeance maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
HMS Vengeance attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using standard mode.
Target dodged the incoming attack!
[SSS] Predator attacks with Viper Squadron MK D using wall formation.
Light hit on target, doing 215033 damage!

HMS Vengeance maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
HMS Vengeance attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using standard mode.
Critical hit on target, doing 1185938 damage!
Target shield is down!
EMERGENCY JUMP!
[SSS] Predator has retreated from the battlefield due to heavy damage!

Objective: Destroy 10% or more of the enemy while losing less % then the enemy.
 
Attacker defeated!


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on April 21, 2014, 09:20:17 AM
Let's try again in a 3-4 weeks. Predator will have Viper MK DCCC by then.  :diablo:


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on April 21, 2014, 10:41:38 PM
I can squeeze another round of manufacturing during that time. So it is MK CM in a month.  You better upgrade your ship as well. :diablo:


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: Dadds on April 23, 2014, 12:47:25 PM
Always happy to oblige a combat training event. Wonder where my lasers will be in 3-4 weeks lol


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on April 23, 2014, 09:35:17 PM
Not that far for sure. At 11.3M RP per level beyond CCL, you can't upgrade your lasers that much. I'm pretty sure that I make more RP/hr than you as well. LOL


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: JamJulLison on April 24, 2014, 03:00:03 AM
Not that far for sure. At 11.3M RP per level beyond CCL, you can't upgrade your lasers that much. I'm pretty sure that I make more RP/hr than you as well. LOL

Don't assume the laser tech you see on his ships is his max he can build. Considering the long build time he likely has gotten the tech up much more since then.  Personally I think you both are focusing too much on the lasers themselves.  I think after a certain point it is just best to stop for a while so you can get around to upgrading your other ships to about the same tech level.  This can help to maximize money from COMs. Not to mention make better uses of your bays. If your constantly getting higher on each ship upgrade your just ending up with even longer build times meaning it takes that much longer to get out making the solars. That is just my opinion though. If you want to focus on making a couple super ships that is your alls business. lol


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on May 11, 2014, 11:23:05 PM
Not that far for sure. At 11.3M RP per level beyond CCL, you can't upgrade your lasers that much. I'm pretty sure that I make more RP/hr than you as well. LOL

Don't assume the laser tech you see on his ships is his max he can build. Considering the long build time he likely has gotten the tech up much more since then.  Personally I think you both are focusing too much on the lasers themselves.  I think after a certain point it is just best to stop for a while so you can get around to upgrading your other ships to about the same tech level.  This can help to maximize money from COMs. Not to mention make better uses of your bays. If your constantly getting higher on each ship upgrade your just ending up with even longer build times meaning it takes that much longer to get out making the solars. That is just my opinion though. If you want to focus on making a couple super ships that is your alls business. lol

You can tell things about ship development, income maximization, best bay usage, etc. to someone who is a newbie. Not to someone like me. Haha

Besides, at my level, building super ships is one of the very few things left that remains interesting to do until updates come out. LOL

Always happy to oblige a combat training event. Wonder where my lasers will be in 3-4 weeks lol

Just a heads up, I will park SSS Predator over Jupiter this coming Friday, and it will stay there over the weekend. You can attack it if you're still around. Staying over the weekend will also give you enough time to come out from your hiding place in the outer rings.LOL



Title: Re: ITO
Post by: JamJulLison on May 12, 2014, 03:22:14 PM
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You can tell things about ship development, income maximization, best bay usage, etc. to someone who is a newbie. Not to someone like me. Haha

Besides, at my level, building super ships is one of the very few things left that remains interesting to do until updates come out. LOL


I do all that already lol. Still corp ships are another good way to help people grow.   Also I agree on the super ship thing.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on May 16, 2014, 03:05:05 AM
SSS Predator is now orbiting Jupiter.

If you are not too scared Dadds, it's time for you to come out from your hiding place. LOL


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: Matamaure001 on May 16, 2014, 11:27:05 AM
I sent on of my captains scan your ship on display at Jupiter. He said: very impressive attack power but low shields. Thx for the view Ralph.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on May 17, 2014, 06:03:10 AM
Low shields? It has 10,860,656 shield, and considering it is only a battlecruiser ship with only 58 module slots, I don't really consider it low on shields. :)


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on May 17, 2014, 06:04:50 AM
And still no Dadds in sight. I didn't really expect he'd show up.Haha

BTW Mata, you can attack it too. Just to have some fun until the updates come out. LOL


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: Matamaure001 on May 17, 2014, 07:42:37 AM
Thx for the offer Ralph, my 26 warships are all doing COM missions right now. What I would be curious about is a battle with 2 ships per side. I did one with a warship and an unarmed scout protected and the first round of combat was done by the scout!!!!!!  I lost the battle. My warship had all the power needed to dispatch the 5 ennemy ships. In my opinion the combat system is still brooken. And the numbers given by my scan was ATT 16 millions, DEF 6 millions for a total power of 15.5 millions; if those numbers are not right, there is an other bug!


I did the calculations by hand and the scann should have shown DEF at 10.5 millions (30 Adv shd MK 300 at 189375 each: 30 * 189375 * 1.85 = 10.5 mil) and ATT 24 viper MK 800: 24 * 401500 * 1.85 * 1.65 = 29.4 mil. total power = (30 * 189375) + (24 * 401500) = 15.3+ mil.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: Matamaure001 on May 17, 2014, 11:01:29 AM
Below is the result of the active scan I just redone:

SSS Predator
Ship abilities:   
Weapons Shield Armor Manpower Combat speed Dodge Interplanetary Interstellar Cargo bay
15968477 5870625 0 41865 3 km/s 15% 0.08475 AU/s 0.002475 LY/s 7725 m3
 
Total power: 15,590,505 (W+S+A/2+M+50*Cs)
  Active scan successfully completed.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: JoolzVern on May 17, 2014, 01:43:20 PM
 :21: Some of this stuff makes no sense sometimes. We had a guy lose a com with 40:1 odds a while back and that was hard to make sense of as well.  :))


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: sargas on May 17, 2014, 07:36:59 PM
40:1 odds means that there is a 1% chance of victory for the weaker side, and it does occasionally happen that that side is victorious...


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: JoolzVern on May 18, 2014, 12:07:27 AM
Yeah even when they all have mk1 marines and you have mk30 shields and a compliment of similarly higher weapons.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: JamJulLison on May 18, 2014, 01:12:06 AM
The odds aren't everything. It is why a good ship build is important.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on May 18, 2014, 09:09:46 PM
Always happy to oblige a combat training event. Wonder where my lasers will be in 3-4 weeks lol

As I expected Dadds, you didn't show up on Jupiter. Everyone can see here that you are just all talk and no bite. LOL

Even on the small chance that I might have lost had the battle taken place, you probably realized that you just can't win against me in the long run. It's just impossible unless, (1) you spend a great deal of real $$$ into the game or (2), I don't play for half a year. Haha

You still have a chance to save whatever honor you have left in the future. Just post the battle date a couple days prior here so that everyone can see it. Take into account that as more time passes by, the stronger my ship will get.  :))




Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on May 26, 2014, 04:57:23 AM
Too ashamed to post here, Dadds?  :))


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: Dadds on May 27, 2014, 04:51:10 PM
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Too ashamed to post here, Dadds?
let me see...firstly, some of us have a real life to attend to and i was away for that weekend with my wife and children enjoying the great outdoors.
2ndly, i dont troll here daily like you guys do. Mostly because of reason number 1. Try a PM next time, it may get my attention quicker.
Oh and 3rdly, if such a word exists, the subject is entitled "ITO" and since you have always been an advocate of not hijacking other peoples threads, it seems again you show your hypocrisy. How was i to know that a fight was being organised under the subject "ITO"? Were they coming to hold your towel? haha
Now it makes sense what my team member was talking about with regard to the big weekend fight.....seems someone forgot to actually invite me LOL
Quote
Take into account that as more time passes by, the stronger my ship will get.  laugh
breaks into song, "....And time, goes by, so slowly......" (insert tune to unchained melody). A viper/marine build grows power very slowly while being cheap. Consider that concept for a minute. The longer time goes by, the more my laser/adv shield gains in power vs viper/adv shield provided i can fund advances. (and a little thing called shield bonus +33%, though i dont think that is actually working correctly)


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: JoolzVern on May 27, 2014, 04:59:12 PM
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Too ashamed to post here, Dadds?
..the subject is entitled "ITO" and since you have always been an advocate of not hijacking other peoples threads, it seems again you show your hypocrisy...

Yes Raph is a hypocrite because he threadjacked his own thread lol.

 :lol_sign:


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on May 27, 2014, 08:36:25 PM
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Too ashamed to post here, Dadds?
..the subject is entitled "ITO" and since you have always been an advocate of not hijacking other peoples threads, it seems again you show your hypocrisy...

Yes Raph is a hypocrite because he threadjacked his own thread lol.

 :lol_sign:

I wanted to point that out myself. I am the creator of this thread. I guess you, Dadds, are also accusing your neighbor of breaking into their own house. Hahaha what a dumb comment! LOL

And in case you forgot (you probably did because you are ancient.LOL), you were the one who posted our battle here, and I just posted a rematch with a timeframe, which in turn you also confirmed. why the hell would i post this somewhere else?LOL

You can stop talking about game concepts. you have no credibility to talk to me about it because I have surpassed you in all aspects of the game.

Just bring your strongest ship to jupiter if you are not scared. Stop talking for once and just do it. LOL



Title: Re: ITO
Post by: Dadds on May 28, 2014, 01:33:38 PM
There are so many worthless threads here i dont bother to keep track of which moron chose to create them. Just the topic. You just revamped an old thread which had little meaning to me.
And i see ITO is there to hold your towel for you....its about as good as ITO will ever achieve.
So you feeling bold now are you Raphael? Not sure how you judge surpassed in all aspects of the game; my best will always defeat your best. I have been offering the challenge for a long, long time now, and you choose to avoid it.
@ Raphael: You have your best ready and i will let you know when i have the time to deal with you. You are of little significance to me so you will have to wait your turn.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: JoolzVern on May 28, 2014, 02:01:13 PM
 :lol_sign:

Right marveling at your lunacy means I'm holding the towel in a thread he started offering a bounty on ITO

 :wow:
Hey Dadds, do you do birthday parties? I'll give you fifty bucks to put on your floppy shoes and clown make-up and do your thing for half an hour.
 :please:


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on May 28, 2014, 09:44:54 PM
There are so many worthless threads here i dont bother to keep track of which moron chose to create them. Just the topic. You just revamped an old thread which had little meaning to me.
And i see ITO is there to hold your towel for you....its about as good as ITO will ever achieve.
So you feeling bold now are you Raphael? Not sure how you judge surpassed in all aspects of the game; my best will always defeat your best. I have been offering the challenge for a long, long time now, and you choose to avoid it.
@ Raphael: You have your best ready and i will let you know when i have the time to deal with you. You are of little significance to me so you will have to wait your turn.

Just keep on making excuses, Dadds. You are convincing no one but yourself. Still not admitting that you, yet again, made a another stupid comment--this time about hijacking threads.Hahaha

If you are offering it for so long now, why didn't you show up?? Oh yes, because you are scared. Just like a little girl. Go run to your mommy, kid.

Always happy to oblige a combat training event. Wonder where my lasers will be in 3-4 weeks lol
What a big lie! You will not face my ship because you are terrified to let everyone confirm that you truly are a big has-been.

But it's okay. I didn't really expect that you will show up at Jupiter, Dadds. I always thought you are a coward, and that you are a man without honor. You just confirmed it for me and for everyone else.  :12:


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on May 29, 2014, 09:32:21 AM
I will just show our little encounter several days ago to everyone to prove that you are just a cowardly, honorless, little girl, Dadds. You knew you'd lose if you faced me on Jupiter. LOL

Beta SBA 50730
 
Defender opened fire!

Wave 1 - Primary forces (Weapons & Boarding)

HMS Vendetta Vs. SSS Predator
Weapons assault
HMS Vendetta maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
HMS Vendetta attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using standard mode.
Target dodged the incoming attack!
SSS Predator attacks with Viper Squadron MK CM using wall formation.
Excellent hit on target, doing 853335 damage!

HMS Vendetta maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
HMS Vendetta attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using standard mode.
Minor hit on target, doing 218213 damage!
SSS Predator attacks with Viper Squadron MK CM using wall formation.
Light hit on target, doing 487620 damage!

HMS Vendetta maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
HMS Vendetta attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using standard mode.
Direct hit on target, doing 711563 damage!
SSS Predator attacks with Viper Squadron MK CM using wall formation.
Target dodged the incoming attack!

HMS Vendetta maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
HMS Vendetta attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using standard mode.
Target dodged the incoming attack!
SSS Predator attacks with Viper Squadron MK CM using wall formation.
Excellent hit on target, doing 914288 damage!

HMS Vendetta maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
HMS Vendetta attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using standard mode.
The attack missed the target completely!
SSS Predator attacks with Viper Squadron MK CM using wall formation.
Minor hit on target, doing 223493 damage!

HMS Vendetta maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
HMS Vendetta attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using standard mode.
Direct hit on target, doing 673613 damage!
SSS Predator attacks with Viper Squadron MK CM using wall formation.
Light hit on target, doing 487620 damage!

SSS Predator maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
SSS Predator attacks with Viper Squadron MK CM using wall formation.
The attack missed the target completely!
HMS Vendetta attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using standard mode.
Light hit on target, doing 474375 damage!

HMS Vendetta maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
HMS Vendetta attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using standard mode.
Target dodged the incoming attack!
SSS Predator attacks with Viper Squadron MK CM using wall formation.
Light hit on target, doing 507938 damage!

HMS Vendetta maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
HMS Vendetta attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using standard mode.
Critical hit on target, doing 1129013 damage!
SSS Predator attacks with Viper Squadron MK CM using wall formation.
Hit on target, doing 599368 damage!

HMS Vendetta maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
HMS Vendetta attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using standard mode.
Light hit on target, doing 360525 damage!
SSS Predator attacks with Viper Squadron MK CM using wall formation.
Minor hit on target, doing 325080 damage!

HMS Vendetta maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
HMS Vendetta attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using standard mode.
Target dodged the incoming attack!
SSS Predator attacks with Viper Squadron MK CM using wall formation.
Target dodged the incoming attack!

HMS Vendetta maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
HMS Vendetta attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using standard mode.
Light hit on target, doing 388988 damage!
SSS Predator attacks with Viper Squadron MK CM using wall formation.
Light hit on target, doing 497780 damage!

HMS Vendetta maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
HMS Vendetta attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using standard mode.
Target dodged the incoming attack!
SSS Predator attacks with Viper Squadron MK CM using wall formation.
Excellent hit on target, doing 853335 damage!

HMS Vendetta maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
HMS Vendetta attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using standard mode.
Light hit on target, doing 341550 damage!
SSS Predator attacks with Viper Squadron MK CM using wall formation.
Light hit on target, doing 467303 damage!

HMS Vendetta maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
HMS Vendetta attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using standard mode.
Minor hit on target, doing 313088 damage!
SSS Predator attacks with Viper Squadron MK CM using wall formation.
Light hit on target, doing 375875 damage!

HMS Vendetta maneuvers into fire range and attacks first.
HMS Vendetta attacks with Laser Cannon MK CCL using standard mode.
Minor hit on target, doing 322575 damage!
SSS Predator attacks with Viper Squadron MK CM using wall formation.
Excellent hit on target, doing 853335 damage!
Target shield is down!
EMERGENCY JUMP!
HMS Vendetta has retreated from the battlefield due to heavy damage!

Wave 2 - Primary forces (Weapons flyby)

Wave 3 - Protected forces (Weapons & Boarding)

Objective: Defeat the opponent primary & protected forces.
 
Attacker defeated!

 


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: Dadds on June 06, 2014, 01:39:25 PM
wow. what a hero Raphael. I noticed the report that shows it rewarded you nothing, and did very little damage to VENDETTA, who is my 2nd's when it comes to a warship. She was up and about in less than a minute at full strength lol. Big, bold Raphael, who wont attack anything unless he has odds 14:7 in favour. That is the markings of a craven coward, to attack only when feeling superior in strength.
One such as you cant talk of honor, here or in real life. You started life out as a pirate, boasting how much you make doing so. It got you declared an outlaw by the very people who you now have cowering beneath you in support of you.
In your tiny deluded little pea-brain, you can believe and make up whatever little reasoning you want as to this "challenge at Jupiter". The very crux of the matter was it seems that i wasnt actually invited to the party, except from an ancient link to which i dont bother even reading much anymore, let alone bother to endorse.
If you want to publicly broadcast "the fight of the century" you need to make sure the opponent is aware of the fight and if he is available for that venue. As i said before, I have a real life which doesnt start with "astro-galaxy"
Make your best available on weekends and i will let you know when i have time to show you how to build a proper combat ship. Plus i will let you know when i have time to attend. It has nothing to do with anything but logistics and time vs money. What is in it for me to come and waste my time spanking another child that i would pull my best out of the field for?


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on June 07, 2014, 07:53:22 AM
All talk and no action AGAIN. So typical of Dadds. LOL

I understand that you barely have solars to spend, that's why you can't leave whatever garbage you're gathering in the outer rings. Haha

If you can't go to Jupiter, I will go to you instead. Just tell me the location.

So what stupid excuse can I expect from you this time? LOL You are just making up excuses NOT to fight my ship. You need to realize that the more you reply, the more people see how much of a BIG HONORLESS COWARD you are.

Real combat veteran my a$S, you are more like a real combat coward,bwahahahahaha



Title: Re: ITO
Post by: sargas on June 07, 2014, 09:29:57 PM
All talk and no action AGAIN. So typical of Dadds. LOL

I understand that you barely have solars to spend, that's why you can't leave whatever garbage you're gathering in the outer rings. Haha

If you can't go to Jupiter, I will go to you instead. Just tell me the location.

So what stupid excuse can I expect from you this time? LOL You are just making up excuses NOT to fight my ship. You need to realize that the more you reply, the more people see how much of a BIG HONORLESS COWARD you are.

Real combat veteran my a$S, you are more like a real combat coward,bwahahahahaha



If you have not experienced combat, do not disrespect those of us who have.  Disrespecting one disrespects all.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: johnnydrinkmeth on June 08, 2014, 02:10:29 AM
I think Sargas might be right here.

I don't wish to ruin the atmosphere here in the forums, but perhaps things are getting a little personal...

It is all just a game after all.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on June 08, 2014, 12:54:01 PM
It is all just a game after all.

Exactly. This is just a game. Maybe you two are the ones taking this forum too seriously. LOL


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: Dadds on June 08, 2014, 01:41:49 PM
and take note. VENGEANCE is on the battle arena. i got 1 ship there, you have 4 ships, EOS has 2 ships. I only need the one ship. You called me out, lets call your bluff. you want to go 1v1 or 1v4? doesnt matter to me. and as Sargas points out, i would be very careful who you call a combat coward. i may take exception to that and come pay a visit


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on June 08, 2014, 10:12:09 PM
I should probably just call you a combat coward often you so will show up immediately and not let me wait. LOL

I am not bluffing, I never do. I am confident I win will. And in case you get lucky and land a lot of critical hits and I lose, well, that's part of the game.

Fact is, I make much more RP/hr than you now. And since my previous priority of getting a billion power is done, I can now focus on bringing my RP to over 10,000,000 RP/ hr. I will completely dominate your ships with better tech by then. You better get used to always losing against me because that will happen for sure in the future.

You get my point, combat coward? Hahahahaha


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: Dadds on June 13, 2014, 12:12:10 PM
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I should probably just call you a combat coward often you so will show up immediately and not let me wait. LOL
Contrary to YOUR belief that you pull and control other's actions in a game by name calling, that is by far not the case or the truth. As i have stated in many a previous thread, you cant handle the truth, so you substitute your own. Its a typical psychosis of the insane who feels safe and secure behind their little PC and internet connection and substitute real life for this life so they feel normal and empowered again. Let me tell you something....you are an extinct sub-species that will die a natural death, provided you dont alter that outcome with a rash action to shorten that natural progression.
As to being a combat "coward", are you calling me out in real life, hero? OH, of course not...sorry i forgot this is your reality.
As far as "your real life" here is concerned I showed up only because i can, and had a free resource at the time to do so. Not because you goaded me into it. Your very ego trip is none of my concern on how powerful you feel. Fact is, you are nothing, and will never eventuate into anything. You get the "Darwin award" for natural selection. (or in your case, "non-selection")
If your idea of being a coward is someone who will come and face down an opponent with seemingly overwhelming power, than either you are on the wrong planet, or I am. I am guessing the former, but there are other planets to be on.
I have done the same math you have and the two ships locked into combat will win dependent on the roll of the dice.
I was quite happy to run this timer down and meet you in combat, in the spirit that is was intended. What i read from your posting, however, makes me not give you satisfaction on the battlefield. I am a coward if i dont meet you, I am a coward when i do in your words. And you put the idea out there that if you lose, then it was just lucky. So be it. I will withdraw my vessel so you will never know the outcome. I am through with you and your petty little imaginary world.
Since you feel you forced my hand to come to battle, i will show you otherwise.
Dumb A$$!


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on June 13, 2014, 03:09:53 PM
ROFL!  :))  :))  :))

A lot of talk AGAIN backed by nothing but your own words.

You withdraw from combat because you realized that you will lose that fight, and that you just can't win against me in the long run--that is why you won't face my ships ever again. Did you also realize that you indeed are a real combat coward? Maybe you realized that you really are not a man, but instead just a little girl. You also have never seen true combat! And no, playing COD all day doesn't make you a true veteran!Hahaha Go fool someone else, little girl! LOL

No amount of your useless rhetoric can convince people here. You opting not to fight proves only one thing: that you are just ALL TALK AND NO BITE, like a true coward. Actions mean more than words, so talking all tough but acting like a coward really only means that you are just a coward! Hahaha

I now permit you going back to the outer rings and hiding there. Hiding is the only thing you are good at in the game. LOL



Title: Re: ITO
Post by: JoolzVern on June 14, 2014, 12:57:41 AM
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Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on June 14, 2014, 09:08:32 AM
Dadds, the Syndicate will now occupy Jupiter. I don't have to worry since you are a big coward, right? I guess I don't have to defend it so heavily since you said you won't attack..

Or maybe you will change your mind AGAIN (like a little girl), and decide to attack (only to appear tough, of course), then decide to withdraw AGAIN in the last minute. Am I right?hahahaha You probably change your mind as often as you change your diapers. What will be your excuse this time, coward? ROFL


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: sargas on June 14, 2014, 12:04:41 PM
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Title: Re: ITO
Post by: Dadds on June 15, 2014, 12:19:39 PM
What's the matter Raphael? Did i strike a "raw nerve" there? Am i getting too close to the real truth about you? haha.
You got all these great big toys to play with, but awwwwwwww, nobody wants to come play with you. That must bother you down to your core hey, having no friends and no life.
All your friends are bought and paid for as are your loyal subjects. As i said, you are nothing to me and will continue to remain so. a pimple on the backside of the earth and humanity in dire need of some attention. Should give your therapist plenty of work though.
Sayonara, Dumb A$$ (i recommend that title for your next name change)


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on June 20, 2014, 09:19:34 AM
LOL, if you have nothing to do but further prove how much of a coward you are, you dont have to reply here. The reason why I bothered with this thread is because you acted all tough and wanted to fight one on one. But that was just all show of course since you're just a scared little girl. Stop acting as if you're some hotshot, and start acting like the big has-been that you really are.Hahaha


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: Dadds on June 24, 2014, 05:45:10 PM
keep scrolling back up to my last 2 posts on the subject, Captain "Dumb A$$" eventually it may sink in to your brain even (miracles can happen). You also seem to have an abnormal obsession with little girls. I suggest taking that up also with your therapist before it becomes a criminal matter. Perhaps a guilty "sister" syndrome is my guess.
out of character: I am planning some holidays overseas at end of the year. If you feel you want to discuss the issue in real life, let me know. I can always pop on over on a detour and we can discuss what it is to be a coward. I am always happy to educate the ignorant.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: raphael on June 24, 2014, 06:31:05 PM
LOL, again stating things that are not relevant to game--what a typical response of true coward!Hahaha

You are getting farther and farther away from the topic. Seems you are just desperate to post a reply here. I guess that's just for the sake of appearing all tough and manly. Afterall, you claim to be a real combat veteran, right? (but who are you kidding, really? my grandma is more manly than you) Hahahaha! If a "guy" withdraws from a planned battle (especially in a game like this), it only means one thing and no other: that "he" is scared. I should probably use "she" though. LOL. There's no need to put up silly excuses because it just won't work. It's easy to recognize honorless cowards like you nowadays because it's so common. Hahaha

I'm done here. It's a waste of time dealing with complete has-beens who are desperate to stay relevant. ROFL


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: Dadds on June 26, 2014, 11:02:30 AM
So was that a "yes" to getting together? a "maybe" or what. You are calling me a "real-life coward" which has nothing to do in game. I can find a few minutes of my time and a few dollars to come and chat to you about that since i am planning on travel at end of year. Happy to talk over those matters with you and explain my point of view. Naturally, you need to be done with this thread since it is getting well over your tiny brain and head. My PM box is always open for a meet date. i will be abroad between late Dec '14 to early Feb '15. I am sure you can fit in an appointment within that time, if you wish to discuss my sexuality, ability or military history with me. I guess if your consider your grandmama more manly than me, then i suspect that you dont have a man figure in your life and are weaker than your own grandma. OEDIPUS SYNDROME. Dont worry, its quite common to revere and quite often sleep with your siblings and parents, so the psyches say.....Go get that help with professionals to talk it over with them....
BTW "in a game like this" combat is defunct by the very nature of it. Again, go back to my reason for moving on. No longer going to give you any acknowledgement in game as anyone of any import. You want to make up your reasons as to why i chose to move on....go ahead. The only reason why i left was so i wasnt part of your psychosis any longer. Dont want to disturb that unbalanced mind any longer. And because you dont deserve any respect to fight as a warrior. So keep building, building, building....and show how pointless it is at the end of the day, since no one wants to play with you. I was at least willing to do so, until you chose to open that flap you call a mouth and mess things up.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: sargas on July 13, 2014, 08:30:43 PM
So was that a "yes" to getting together? a "maybe" or what. You are calling me a "real-life coward" which has nothing to do in game. I can find a few minutes of my time and a few dollars to come and chat to you about that since i am planning on travel at end of year. Happy to talk over those matters with you and explain my point of view. Naturally, you need to be done with this thread since it is getting well over your tiny brain and head. My PM box is always open for a meet date. i will be abroad between late Dec '14 to early Feb '15. I am sure you can fit in an appointment within that time, if you wish to discuss my sexuality, ability or military history with me. I guess if your consider your grandmama more manly than me, then i suspect that you dont have a man figure in your life and are weaker than your own grandma. OEDIPUS SYNDROME. Dont worry, its quite common to revere and quite often sleep with your siblings and parents, so the psyches say.....Go get that help with professionals to talk it over with them....
BTW "in a game like this" combat is defunct by the very nature of it. Again, go back to my reason for moving on. No longer going to give you any acknowledgement in game as anyone of any import. You want to make up your reasons as to why i chose to move on....go ahead. The only reason why i left was so i wasnt part of your psychosis any longer. Dont want to disturb that unbalanced mind any longer. And because you dont deserve any respect to fight as a warrior. So keep building, building, building....and show how pointless it is at the end of the day, since no one wants to play with you. I was at least willing to do so, until you chose to open that flap you call a mouth and mess things up.

Dadds, if you can make it to Portland, Oregon, USA (or U.S. of A - if you prefer.  lol) I would really enjoy meeting you.  I even put some watermelon on the 'barbie'.


Title: Re: ITO
Post by: Dadds on July 15, 2014, 12:26:15 PM
Probably not going to happen.