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Title: public fueling stations
Post by: sargas on April 19, 2014, 05:18:00 PM
this will be a good location to publish your locations.


The Empire is maintaining A fuel station at:

Jupiter (sector 0,0) selling  fuel + meds


Title: Re: public information notice
Post by: lisunken on April 19, 2014, 09:19:09 PM
O YES. cheap fuel. I take about 20,000 please. hi


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: Rostin on May 01, 2014, 10:03:37 PM
I have a small fuel depot at Eta GJ 674 with enough fuel to get someone back to Sol if they need it.


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: JamJulLison on May 02, 2014, 12:16:30 AM
I'll be setting up some after novas are brought in. They will be out in the 4th ring.  I have plans for 8 station public fuel stations.  The reason i am waiting for novas is I am hoping expansion will also be in around that time.  Also there will be new places to get resources then.  When I do set them up though I will request others not mine in the same systems. Just to avoid having it go nova early. That way the stations can continue to serve the public at the same locations longer. There will also be a small defense outpost sharing orbit with the stations. Just in case any pirates decide they may want to try to go after it.  It won't be huge in power like many of our ships.  Just large enough to give a decent enough timer that it might make others feel it isn't worth going after if they are looking for profit.  If they aren't looking for profit, then they may of course use QP to speed up the timer. I am hoping though they will at least let the timer count down. This would of course allow me time to get any nearby ships I may have there to help defend it. 


Dadds I know we have an agreement on public stations. This is not intended in anyway to be a military build up or a military base. I just don't like the idea of leaving refueling stations completely defenseless.


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: Dadds on May 07, 2014, 12:06:47 AM
Since i am declared public enemy number 1 it would be unwise to put military posts around the 4th ring. I am an honorable man however and i can decide against hitting civilian targets if that is all that they are. if the base is for general public use then IMG will not destroy it. You must declare it to be so protected, however.
How you deal with "pirates" is your concern, if you want to go legit. Military posts will be hit by IMG


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: JamJulLison on May 07, 2014, 12:41:00 AM
Since i am declared public enemy number 1 it would be unwise to put military posts around the 4th ring. I am an honorable man however and i can decide against hitting civilian targets if that is all that they are. if the base is for general public use then IMG will not destroy it. You must declare it to be so protected, however.
How you deal with "pirates" is your concern, if you want to go legit. Military posts will be hit by IMG

These will be public outpost. The defense stations simply for defense. Not for Military purposes. Just a good stop along the way for people who need fuel and can be sure that the station is more likely to remain there for quite some time.  When I set them up I will be sure to post on the forums the location of the public stations so people know where to look for them.  Unfortunately this does mean pirates will be able to find it a lot easier.  Hence the need for those defense stations.


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: sargas on May 11, 2014, 05:07:00 AM
you may employ all the rhetoric you wish.

to date only 2 captains have published the locations of their stations.

and neither of them are Dadds or JJL.


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: johnnydrinkmeth on May 11, 2014, 05:51:25 AM
Just out of curiosity, do these stations turn a profit?

I've made a fair bit of use out of the station at Jupiter, so I can imagine you're dragging in a bit of money :p


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: sargas on May 11, 2014, 11:58:12 AM
profit, yes they do show a small profit.

the fuel and meds come from 'nest' missions.


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: johnnydrinkmeth on May 11, 2014, 08:45:58 PM
Ah that makes sense.  I focus a lot more on SOS missions than I do on COM's, so I use a lot more medicines than I find.  Guess if you played the opposite way, you might end up stockpiling them up.

Well I'm glad its worthwhile for you, we definitely need more people putting down roots.  Maybe that'd convince Emi to let us trade resources player to player  :puppyeyes:


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: sargas on May 12, 2014, 12:03:34 PM
indeed, I would like to see an 'open' market.


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: Rostin on May 13, 2014, 12:34:31 AM
Do prices actually increase the further you get from Sol?


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: sargas on May 13, 2014, 12:53:18 AM
not mine...

...the 'emergency' fuel resupply - yes,  but not mine, or those of any other players, (those prices are 'locked' into the system)...


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: Dadds on May 14, 2014, 02:21:56 PM
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you may employ all the rhetoric you wish.

to date only 2 captains have published the locations of their stations.

and neither of them are Dadds or JJL.
Been there, done that. Started to set up a public refuel for all to use but it seems the public preferred the cheap profit of reporting my position to enemies of the state. So the public be damned now! Those few who are genuine friends and have honour know where to find me


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: JamJulLison on May 14, 2014, 04:36:42 PM
you may employ all the rhetoric you wish.

to date only 2 captains have published the locations of their stations.

and neither of them are Dadds or JJL.


That is because I haven't set any up  yet.  I am waiting on novas so I won't have to worry about relocating the station.  Once I start putting them up you can be sure that I will post their locations.


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: sargas on May 14, 2014, 09:24:37 PM
I don't think 'novae will be automatic.  You may have to wait a long time to deploy stations...,


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: JamJulLison on May 14, 2014, 10:30:33 PM
I don't think 'novae will be automatic.  You may have to wait a long time to deploy stations...,

From how novas sound they will be automatic. Also until novas or expansion is added, I don't see a real need to add these. They will be ment to help people who need fuel further out.


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: sargas on May 14, 2014, 11:34:27 PM
quote from Sir Emi:

"Quadrants outside the radius of -1,-1 to 1,1 will have a star life cycle.

The star will destabilize in time and eventually go Super Nova.

Captains may deploy special devices to prevent the supernova and stabilize a solar system.

When a star goes super nova, it leaves room for another star to be born somewhere else... some stars may also leave black holes behind."

It says destabilize in time and eventually go Super Nova.
Eventually, not automatically.


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: JamJulLison on May 14, 2014, 11:45:00 PM
quote from Sir Emi:

"Quadrants outside the radius of -1,-1 to 1,1 will have a star life cycle.

The star will destabilize in time and eventually go Super Nova.

Captains may deploy special devices to prevent the supernova and stabilize a solar system.

When a star goes super nova, it leaves room for another star to be born somewhere else... some stars may also leave black holes behind."

It says destabilize in time and eventually go Super Nova.
Eventually, not automatically.


It has also been said many times in the past over the past few years the cause of this will be depletion of resources in a system. The vast majority of planets, moons and asteroid belts in the galaxy have been depleted of most of it's resources.  So if resource is the cause as SirEmi has said many times in the past, then we can be sure that pretty much every system past the first ring will be going nova.


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: lisunken on May 17, 2014, 10:08:11 AM
We all should start stock pile solar system stabilize now.  :P


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: Rostin on May 19, 2014, 06:59:04 PM
I have moved my public fueling station to Delta GJ 674.


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: Dadds on May 21, 2014, 02:19:56 PM
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It has also been said many times in the past over the past few years the cause of this will be depletion of resources in a system. The vast majority of planets, moons and asteroid belts in the galaxy have been depleted of most of it's resources.  So if resource is the cause as SirEmi has said many times in the past, then we can be sure that pretty much every system past the first ring will be going nova.
Looking at the new update for mineral regeneration, this will no longer be the case since no matter how quickly you strip a system of ALL resources, they return. I have been on a personal campaign to push a system into NOVA for years by mineral depletion, but it seems it will now be determined based on star life-cycles, more so than the resources contained within that system.


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: JamJulLison on May 21, 2014, 02:25:58 PM
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It has also been said many times in the past over the past few years the cause of this will be depletion of resources in a system. The vast majority of planets, moons and asteroid belts in the galaxy have been depleted of most of it's resources.  So if resource is the cause as SirEmi has said many times in the past, then we can be sure that pretty much every system past the first ring will be going nova.
Looking at the new update for mineral regeneration, this will no longer be the case since no matter how quickly you strip a system of ALL resources, they return. I have been on a personal campaign to push a system into NOVA for years by mineral depletion, but it seems it will now be determined based on star life-cycles, more so than the resources contained within that system.


You might be right. But we shall see. Hard to tell what the nova point will actually be if it is resource based. I still expect to see some systems go nova though. 


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: Dadds on May 21, 2014, 04:11:10 PM
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You might be right. But we shall see. Hard to tell what the nova point will actually be if it is resource based. I still expect to see some systems go nova though.
Yeah, my home planet's star is venting lots of gas as we speak. I suspect it will go unstable shortly after NOVA is introduced.


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: JamJulLison on May 21, 2014, 08:31:44 PM
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You might be right. But we shall see. Hard to tell what the nova point will actually be if it is resource based. I still expect to see some systems go nova though.
Yeah, my home planet's star is venting lots of gas as we speak. I suspect it will go unstable shortly after NOVA is introduced.

That should be quite entertaining to see. Might want to stick a small useless ship there just to see what happens to ships when stars are left in a system that go nova. Not sure if they would auto jump out or be destroyed with everything else there.


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: Dadds on May 22, 2014, 06:57:50 AM
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That should be quite entertaining to see. Might want to stick a small useless ship there just to see what happens to ships when stars are left in a system that go nova. Not sure if they would auto jump out or be destroyed with everything else there.
All my ships are useful, can I borrow one of yours? har har har. sorry cheap shot but sooo funny :P


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: JamJulLison on May 22, 2014, 11:26:29 AM
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That should be quite entertaining to see. Might want to stick a small useless ship there just to see what happens to ships when stars are left in a system that go nova. Not sure if they would auto jump out or be destroyed with everything else there.
All my ships are useful, can I borrow one of yours? har har har. sorry cheap shot but sooo funny :P


There has to be one you could gut and test out. Since your so interested in investigating the novas i figured you were the perfect one for this job.


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: Dadds on May 24, 2014, 05:15:12 PM
yeah naturally i will conduct the relevant experiments in the lead up to Nova's including the study of collapsing stellar bodies. We get off topic a bit though. Keep those public fuelling posts coming 


Title: Re: public fueling stations
Post by: Rostin on May 24, 2014, 10:45:25 PM
Well jake1976 destroyed my public fueling station and every other module that I had in GJ 674, so I guess I will not be able to provide public fueling services for a while... :/