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Title: Long Range Courses
Post by: Rostin on July 26, 2014, 07:48:56 PM
I found a very strange bug today...

I caught one of my ships in between jumps on autopilot, at the point where it had not plotted the next course yet. I activated it and told it to resume it's long range course and it set its trajectory. When I clicked the engage button it alerted me that the jump exceeded the max range limit of the navigation computer (16 lys). The course that the autopilot/starmap had automatically set was for a point 16.04 lys away... That in itself is an interesting dilemma, but what's more interesting is that my ship STILL began the timer to jump for that excessive range. So now I have a 16.04 ly jump being plotted (even though it told me I couldn't...)


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: SirEmi on July 26, 2014, 10:07:25 PM

I think what happened is that sometime in between the point where you got to the navigation room and then clicked "Engage", the autopilot has already set your next course. Then when you got the error, you've seen the already set course from the autopilot.

The autopilot has an error margin that is a bit more relaxed then the manual setting, just to make sure it works properly with the unlocked jump range limits, with all the modules that affect the jump ranges. I would consider it an autopilot bonus, don't worry about it.


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: raphael on July 27, 2014, 08:53:43 PM
I reported that same error to Support on the day the update was released, but I didn't get a response. Probably because we shouldn't bother ourselves with it. LOL


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: Dadds on July 28, 2014, 03:55:00 AM
quite probably the same bug that allows me to pick a cardinal point and i can jump 16ly, but if i plot a nav point through the computer, my max jump is only 15.84LY


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: JamJulLison on August 03, 2014, 07:18:14 PM
Yeah I got one where I set a course to Sol. Shouldn't have been far.  I get a message the ship is out of fuel. I look and somehow it got out into the 4th ring.  The long distance course on the graphics showed Sol when I specifically set it for Sol system in the star chart area.  I also had an issue a few days ago where I was trying to set a new course and it kept resetting it to the one the ship was on before.  This was on a different ship.


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: lisunken on August 03, 2014, 07:39:35 PM
I caught the same bug too  :)) for some reason it will work one day and the next just stop.


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: JamJulLison on August 04, 2014, 11:12:42 AM
I seem to be having this same thing on multiple ships. Was going to have another going back to Sol but it keeps wanting to set the course to where I got another one set to go to.  This is just ridicules. As it stands right now chain jumping only has a limited use and while one ship is doing it, it seems the rest are just useless to even try it with.  Thanks for giving us a half assed update SirEmi.


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: sargas on August 04, 2014, 12:25:26 PM
Try initiating the 'chain-jump' from the destination instead of the beginning.


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: Matamaure001 on August 04, 2014, 01:53:18 PM
JJL: at one time I had about 10 ships on LR jumping at the same time without any problem! For me LR jumping is fantastic. A lot less micro management. I just completed mapping the new star cluster using it.


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: JamJulLison on August 04, 2014, 09:38:34 PM
Try initiating the 'chain-jump' from the destination instead of the beginning.


That is what I have been doing.


Quote
JJL: at one time I had about 10 ships on LR jumping at the same time without any problem! For me LR jumping is fantastic. A lot less micro management. I just completed mapping the new star cluster using it.


Good for you. Would you like a cookie?


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: lisunken on August 04, 2014, 10:54:41 PM
 :)) only it work for you matt but I getting issue lately that I will start a chain jump only work one and it stop. so over night is dead in space. I saying some of my ship is acting that way and started about week ago. 


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: Matamaure001 on August 05, 2014, 12:28:53 AM
JJL: Do the insults are required?


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: sargas on August 05, 2014, 02:21:55 AM

Good for you. Would you like a cookie?

WTF!!!!!

JJL, Why are you taunting a member of the EoS?  Why are you treating a member of the EoS with this level of disrespect?

Your attitude tells me that you owe him a 'brownie, let alone a cookie'.  Please let me know when you have sent it.

(and Mata, please let me know when you receive it)


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: JamJulLison on August 05, 2014, 03:00:52 AM
Mata was implying the chain jumping was working fine because it is for him.  That obviously isn't the case for everyone. Sorry if I am a bit rude.  I  am not in a very good mood and likely won't be for a great while.  Sargas if you really want to know why you only have to look at my facebook.


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: sargas on August 05, 2014, 03:15:01 AM
the 'claim-jumping' is working fine with me...

and I just ran through facebook and didn't see anything there that should explain this, here...

(do you have something in mind that I might have missed)


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: JamJulLison on August 05, 2014, 03:19:27 AM
the 'claim-jumping' is working fine with me...

and I just ran through facebook and didn't see anything there that should explain this, here...

(do you have something in mind that I might have missed)


Just at what is going on in my personal life. Won't have to go far to see what is going on.  It has put me in not such a good mood on everything.  Unfortunately that means even on here I am likely to be moody.


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: FreezeLove on August 05, 2014, 10:53:02 AM
Jam ill give you my girls number(Mary Jane)and she'll come over and put you in a better place of mind. :6:
On topic ive yet to have a problem with the long jumping myself, sorry to hear other players are having troubles.


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: lisunken on August 05, 2014, 12:27:11 PM
 :))  I can not help myself.  :))  I better stop type NOW or I will get hurt. :sweat


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: sargas on August 07, 2014, 12:37:17 AM
 :P


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: JamJulLison on August 07, 2014, 06:41:18 AM
Yes teasing me over that particular issue isn't exactly the smartest idea.  I tend to get a little trigger happy when I am upset.  That said I will continue to uphold what NAPs we have signed.  Though Freeze since we have no NAP with SSS perhaps it is best you stay out of my crosshairs for a while. You are my friend and I might later on regret sending one of your ships jumping to the nearest safe zone. I doubt Raph would like me doing much but the situations reversed I imagine he might be tempted to do the same thing.


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: raphael on August 07, 2014, 11:49:35 AM
All I can say is: attack him once and your fuel station goes down.  :)


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: FreezeLove on August 07, 2014, 10:02:19 PM
Yes teasing me over that particular issue isn't exactly the smartest idea.  I tend to get a little trigger happy when I am upset.  That said I will continue to uphold what NAPs we have signed.  Though Freeze since we have no NAP with SSS perhaps it is best you stay out of my crosshairs for a while. You are my friend and I might later on regret sending one of your ships jumping to the nearest safe zone. I doubt Raph would like me doing much but the situations reversed I imagine he might be tempted to do the same thing.
Jam you misunderstood me, what I said was light humor and in no way was it teasing you. The messaged I was trying to portray while maybe not worded best, it was to relax in general. Please dont take that the wrong why, just stressing out is very bad for ones health. One of my good friends struggles with this problem and he has stressed himself out to the point he had a heart attack at the age of 33. So considering we are friends I wanted to just lighten the mood, and by no means was it directed towards fueling the fire you already have. Sorry if it offended you.


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: JamJulLison on August 07, 2014, 11:25:19 PM
Yes teasing me over that particular issue isn't exactly the smartest idea.  I tend to get a little trigger happy when I am upset.  That said I will continue to uphold what NAPs we have signed.  Though Freeze since we have no NAP with SSS perhaps it is best you stay out of my crosshairs for a while. You are my friend and I might later on regret sending one of your ships jumping to the nearest safe zone. I doubt Raph would like me doing much but the situations reversed I imagine he might be tempted to do the same thing.
Jam you misunderstood me, what I said was light humor and in no way was it teasing you. The messaged I was trying to portray while maybe not worded best, it was to relax in general. Please dont take that the wrong why, just stressing out is very bad for ones health. One of my good friends struggles with this problem and he has stressed himself out to the point he had a heart attack at the age of 33. So considering we are friends I wanted to just lighten the mood, and by no means was it directed towards fueling the fire you already have. Sorry if it offended you.


I know which is why I didn't snap then. But how I am doing at the moment not even light humor is a very good idea right now.


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: JamJulLison on August 18, 2014, 08:40:30 PM
One more slight issue with this.  It needs to be made that when you set a new course using Navigation or Nav computer that the long range course set on the star chart is erased.  This was not the case on one of my ships. I set a simple course back to Sol and set it on auto pilot. The ship was near sol and I wanted it to jump while I was offline. I didn't realize it still had a course set to the wormhole that leads to the giant star cluster. This is a location it had automaticly had set when I was having that one bug before and carried over from another ship.  So my ship followed that itself and ran out of fuel partway there.  This was pretty annoying.


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: Matamaure001 on August 19, 2014, 01:29:44 AM
JJL this is not a bug but the way the system has been programed. You can have a LR course set and at some point look here and there for whatever reasons and after that resume your LR course. It is a neat feature.


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: JamJulLison on August 19, 2014, 05:53:32 AM
JJL this is not a bug but the way the system has been programed. You can have a LR course set and at some point look here and there for whatever reasons and after that resume your LR course. It is a neat feature.



Unless of course your wanting to use autopilot for a normal jump.  Which is impossible to do if there is that course laid in from the Star Maps.  I really think that when a new course is set elsewhere, that choice should be overridden or at the very least the autopilot follows that new course rather then the Star Maps one.  For that matter we should be able to set up chain jump courses with the nav computer itself.  Also there is no way to actually cancel a course you set using the Star Maps.  So any use of autopilot for regular jumps or done from the nav computer can't be used if you already got a course set in with the Star Maps. So say you change course.  Forget for a while a Star Map course was set for that ship. Then decide to jump somewhere else and set up the autopilot, it will follow whatever course you set on the star maps instead.


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: sargas on August 19, 2014, 01:30:26 PM
then go back to the star map and cancel the LR jump, or simply disengage the autopilot while you are 'off course' and re-engage it when you are ready to resume. It's really no more annoying than it is when we 'power-down' for shorter timers.


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: JamJulLison on August 19, 2014, 04:42:04 PM
then go back to the star map and cancel the LR jump, or simply disengage the autopilot while you are 'off course' and re-engage it when you are ready to resume. It's really no more annoying than it is when we 'power-down' for shorter timers.



You can't cancel it. I just posted that you can't. Try reading my post all the way through.  The only option if you want autopilot to work when you got one of those set and wanna go somewhere else is to set an entirely new course to the destination your wanting to go that is nearby. 


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: sargas on August 19, 2014, 08:05:01 PM
I just tested that and you are correct. 

The only way to stop it is to disengage the auto-pilot.


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: raphael on August 19, 2014, 09:51:51 PM
I don't have issues with the way it is now. There are many many more important updates that need to be implemented, IMO.  :)


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: sargas on August 19, 2014, 10:04:54 PM
One more slight issue with this.  It needs to be made that when you set a new course using Navigation or Nav computer that the long range course set on the star chart is erased.  This was not the case on one of my ships. I set a simple course back to Sol and set it on auto pilot. The ship was near sol and I wanted it to jump while I was offline. I didn't realize it still had a course set to the wormhole that leads to the giant star cluster. This is a location it had automaticly had set when I was having that one bug before and carried over from another ship.  So my ship followed that itself and ran out of fuel partway there.  This was pretty annoying.

OK, here is what I see that might have happened:

You had a chain jump set up and wanted to explore another location and then wanted the auto-pilot to jump you there (the new location) when you were offline. It did just that.  And since you were off-line (sleeping, etc.) and not setting another task for the ship, auto-pilot re-engaged (while you were offline) to finish the jump criteria in your computer.  You need to set the 'long-jump' chain to the new target and then go offline. If you are on-line, it doesn't matter (you can adjust the ship movement manually).

It's kinda a case of 'paying attention to where you sent your ships'.



  


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: JamJulLison on August 20, 2014, 02:15:59 AM
One more slight issue with this.  It needs to be made that when you set a new course using Navigation or Nav computer that the long range course set on the star chart is erased.  This was not the case on one of my ships. I set a simple course back to Sol and set it on auto pilot. The ship was near sol and I wanted it to jump while I was offline. I didn't realize it still had a course set to the wormhole that leads to the giant star cluster. This is a location it had automaticly had set when I was having that one bug before and carried over from another ship.  So my ship followed that itself and ran out of fuel partway there.  This was pretty annoying.

OK, here is what I see that might have happened:

You had a chain jump set up and wanted to explore another location and then wanted the auto-pilot to jump you there (the new location) when you were offline. It did just that.  And since you were off-line (sleeping, etc.) and not setting another task for the ship, auto-pilot re-engaged (while you were offline) to finish the jump criteria in your computer.  You need to set the 'long-jump' chain to the new target and then go offline. If you are on-line, it doesn't matter (you can adjust the ship movement manually).

It's kinda a case of 'paying attention to where you sent your ships'.



  


In this case I didn't set the course for that ship.  Remember before when it was bugging out and auto setting courses that your other ship had set with the star map?  I forgot it still had that one even locked in.  I think we should at least have some sort of option to enable us to overwrite the star maps course. Just in case someone is forgetful like me.


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: sargas on August 20, 2014, 06:38:06 PM
I understand what you are saying now.

Maybe a yes/no button that will pop up (like the 'Do You Really Want To Change Course' prompt) saying 'do you wish to disengage the auto-pilot'.


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: lisunken on August 20, 2014, 07:19:33 PM
more like a cancel button.  :)) and let redo the way point.


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: Rostin on August 20, 2014, 09:56:51 PM
I understand what you are saying now.

Maybe a yes/no button that will pop up (like the 'Do You Really Want To Change Course' prompt) saying 'do you wish to disengage the auto-pilot'.

There is already the "Change Course Warning" option in the nav screen. It could be something like that where you toggle if the autopilot follows the LR course or the manually set short-range one


Title: Re: Long Range Courses
Post by: JamJulLison on August 21, 2014, 11:01:55 PM
I understand what you are saying now.

Maybe a yes/no button that will pop up (like the 'Do You Really Want To Change Course' prompt) saying 'do you wish to disengage the auto-pilot'.

There is already the "Change Course Warning" option in the nav screen. It could be something like that where you toggle if the autopilot follows the LR course or the manually set short-range one


I really like that idea.  I see no reason for this to not be possible.