Please let that be read as pure and simple rantings.

Nothing malicious was intended.

Pretty much just a reason to go back to piracy is all i read out of this news press. (1) Things are pretty dull out there and Raphael is not entertaining enough to keep up interest in killing him alone with nothing else to do.
On the note of "the individual waiting on an inactive captain" the main reason i do that is because the last time i made a call and counter vote i was criticized for not being the GC rep and didnt hold the vote. Besides, i dont see anything of import in the GC forums to actually require any immediate action on. Just a persistent annoying demand to join the GC when it was already made clear "We are not interested" (2)
As always, if there is some serious issues to be dealt with, like piracy by the big corps on new pilots, we will respond in kind. Report all acts of thuggery to myself personally as senior GC member and i will deal with those complaints personally.(3)

As did I. Your desire to move back to your old ways is evident enough. Should any victims complain about your current actions then it is quite possible the galaxy may again see crossed swords between us lol

(4)

I seriously doubt I will fall back to my old ways.  Mostly if you see anything at all it will be one of my bigger ships hitting a target.  Of course that gives such a huge timer anyone can move out of the way easy enough if they are active.  Only other things I might do is the occasional clean out of an area.  Mostly to try to clear out some inactives.  I don't plan on constantly raiding and hassling people with other forms of attacks like I did back in the day. The profit is just too low for it. lol (5)

1.  I am seeing the same thing.

2.  Chill out, dude..."persistent annoying",  the GC is in trouble and needs help for it's survival...

3.  Or tell me,  the information will be forwarded unless they, themselves are involved...

4.  Dadds, if JJL restarts his piracy policy, please understand that I will (to the best of my ability) deny him his 'profit'!

5.  It sounds like the actions of a pirate to me...

Please don't yell at me.  I just asked this time because of JJ's departure.  You are only two now (which really screws up voting).  I am a signer of the original document, I feel a need to try to fix what we missed.


Or are you just afraid of my voice in council (I know that JJL was)?

1. Corporations are this game's equivalent to alliances.  I have trouble recognizing one that is just pretty much a 1 person alliance.

2. Then you recall correctly on icpup.  I didn't boot him.  He left on his own.  Not sure what the heck he told you.  As for simon, your right I do know why and I do understand. 

3. When practically every one of those others doesn't even have any active members, or just 1 that is really low ranked, they are hardly worthy of mention and really shouldn't be allowed to continue to exist. Let's look at PRQL for example. When was the last time we actually saw any of them online?

4. That ship was designed for corp leadership to use.(a)  Namely the navy and myself for use during wartime. When we went to peacetime the navy didn't have as much use for it.  Mata had a huge income as it was and I needed a better income on COMs so I could work more on new corp ships and stuff.  When your doing most of the work on corp ships you tend to need that extra income wouldn't you agree? Also if you recall the attack timers on it were of insane length.  I would often pick up multiple COMs at a time to do.  By the time I would be done with them usually about a month or so would have gone by.(b)  I am slowly phasing out corp SOS ships in favor of Corp COM ships and before long every member in our corp will have a Corp COM ship they can use.   Some of it is coming from stuff sin has given us.  Before he did this though everything was coming out of my very own pocket.(c) Weapons and some engines are still coming out of my own pocket.  Once this stuff is eventually used up it will be back to using my own solars for everything on the ships.   Do you remember when I told everyone around the time you were leaving that I was taking our corp in more of a Navy direction?  This is what I was talking about.  More COM ships all around. Especially when it comes to Corp Ships.  As it stands right now only 3 of our people are still waiting on one.  I have a big one I am testing out now that I am going to give to sauron to use.  Bob and Solvae are the other two still waiting.  I went from order of lowest to highest. Only reason Sauron is getting this one here is cause he is doing some work on a special top secret corp ship we are working on.  Of course this one he is getting isn't one of the Corp COM ships. But our newest Corp Command Ship.  TGE Command #3.   Soon I will begin work on Solvae's ship.  It is just a matter of finding time when I got days off work and stuff to get it going.

1. Please define your your interpretation of corporation/alliance.
       I see a corporation; and then I see a corporation allying with another corporation to form an alliance.  The two (corporation/alliance) are not interchangable.

2.  As I now recall (yeah, yeah, I know...)he left while the PMI leaders were discussing his dismissal (I do remember saying his only neg was his lack in communication).

3.  Still...   (DUDE, it's called respect.  You have declared yourself (at least to me)to be a diplomat.  This stance is hardly diplomatic.

4. 
     a.  To which leaders do you refer?  As I recall, we were three.  You, the co-leader (and later leader), Mata, and myself.
     b.  What I remember most about this is when I came into 'your battle' to upgrade the weapons on our first ship was this:  I took control of the corporate ship, added railgun module(s), reset your attack timer, and used my QP to advance the attack --- your response was "I wanted to do it myself"...
     c.  Do you not remember the time that I built engines for one of your little corp. ships only to be told "I wanted to do that myself"?
         

The Sargasian Empire requests (for the second time) admittance to the Galactic Council.

Here is the thing when we compare SSS and ITO.


ITO is full of active members and is growing. It is a true corporation.   (1)

SSS is pretty much a one man corp. It's other member cluster81 is barely active and haven't seemed to grown. So it is hard to see it as a legitimate corporation when pretty much all of it's power is just cause of 1 member.  So while yes you raph are growing more and more in power, your inactive person isn't and you don't have any more members. There for your corp is not truly growing at all. Just you.  (1)


Now lets compare some other corps. I want other corp members to please not take any insult to this. I am not trying to insult anyone.


IMG:  Half it's members are active, 1 is semi-active and one isn't on at all.  Right now to me they barely qualify as a corp.  Now this isn't entirely Dadds fault.  It can be hard to keep players active on here.  I have had to boot quite a few inactive myself.  (1)


EOS: Well the majority of their power comes from Mata.  They got a decent amount of members. I am not really sure how active they are all though. (a)Some of their members I wonder though how well they are really helping and growing. One being icup a former member of my corp.  icpup left when Sargas started talking about leaving .  He actually left before Sargas if I remember correctly.  So he immediately bailed ship.(b)  He also isn't always too active.  Most of his growth to around his current power was due to help from my corp when he was with us.  Now while I am sure he has gotten help from EoS, before he was with us he never showed any growth really.  The guy has been around quite a while.  His player number is 908.  Which means he joined shortly before Aysle who's number is 925.  To me he never came across someone who had a lot of drive and didn't do a lot of interacting with the rest of the corp.   Then there is simoncoetzer.  Now he is a good guy and was pretty active with the corp for a while.  Then he seemed to vanish.   There is also simoncoetzer who at times has problems staying active.(c)  The rest I can't really be sure on.  I do with them the best though.  (2)


NHC: Many members but most are not very active and the ones that are don't do much to really work together. It is a failure as a corp.  (1)


None off the other corps are worthy of mention except for my own.    (3)


In my corp I have been working hard to help my members improve. Not just myself. As a result my various members have all began to grow. Just look how many are in the top 20 now. A lot of my former members are also in the top 20.  I could be selfish and just work on increasing my own stuff but that means my own members wouldn't do as well. So as a corp we would be weakened.  A good leader puts the needs of his members before his own.  Individually we may not have as much power as Raph or Mata.  But as a corp we are stronger because I work to make sure my people continue to grow and prosper.   ITO kind of reminds me of a lesser version of us.  They are working to grow as a corp together.  Their leader works to help make everyone better. Not just himself.  Given the time ITO could be as good as TGE.  Though if they will catch up to us is another matter.  Just because the differences in tech levels.  Still stranger things have happened.    (4)

(1)  In what we like to call the 'real-world', there are two types of corporations.  Sole and Multi.  Both are legal and viable entities.  Both have responsibilities and can be sued for misdeeds.  Since, Sir Emi has not changed his corporate definitions to disallow Corporations (Sole), the arguement that 'a single corporation is not a real corporation' is invalid.

(2)...
     (a)  Yes, the Sargasian Empire, an active and vibrant community (and Director Mata is indeed a big-boy)
     (b) I do not recall icpup 'leaving' PMI, I remember him being kicked out.
     (c) simon, yes... you know why he has periods of inactivity.  

(3)  That's rather arrogant. don't you think.  Just because YOU don't approve of their existence does not mean they do not exist.

(4) " I could be selfish and just work on increasing my own stuff but that means my own members wouldn't do as well"
Is that why I was only allowed control of PMI's first corporate ship (a ship I helped build) for only a few days?




(edit... to fix a possible misunderstanding...)

I believe you, JJ.

let us move on...

In absence of my rep, IMG (thought we already settled this) votes "no"

As often as you have said   "his vote has no meaning unless I agree, but it is his vote"...

Your last statement on this topic said:  "my advice to Aysle would be to vote to deny at this time entry into the GC for the corporation EOS"

That was not a vote, just another attempt to slow action on a topic.  If you have the vote, then vote!  Do not delay a vote because your 'pet' is not available.  Is that not the major reason that NHC was excommunicated?

If this offended you, I apologize.  It's just when you write "my voting advice to..." I read a slowdown on procedure.

off topic here for certain. erase sounds like a good enough wording. You are becoming argumentative Sargas. You wanted a vote. I gave you a vote. You want to conduct another vote? i will start out with a "NO" to any and all petitions that EoS brings to this forum.

That was not a vote, just another attempt to slow action on a topic.  If you have the vote, then vote!  Do not delay a vote because your 'pet' is not available.  Is that not the major reason that NHC was excommunicated?

And on that note:
When Aysle decides to return to the arena, I would recommend you probably go hide someplace for the rest of existence. He isnt as tolerant as i am to an insult.
By the way, your best friend forever, Raphael, is getting his backside spanked by my fleet on a regular basis now. I suspect you already know that though, since you are bed partners.
In future, dont come into OUR forums shaking your fist with accusations, insult and demands, or next time i will BREAK OFF THAT FIST and anything of value attached to it

Dadds <OUT>

My opinion is that the IMG voting representative's  active participation in the game need not be considered 'an insult' to you.  
And as such, please keep your veiled threats to yourself.  
If Aysle feels insulted by this, let him contact me about it.  Not you!  I will gladly speak to him regarding any situations regarding the two of us.  
The only thing of value I hold in 'my Fist' is your honor.
 

 ...and if I still had my original powers, I would have closed this bloody topic after the two negative votes...

THIS TOPIC IS CLOSED, and I request all to honor the closing by no longer responding to it.

thank you

...whatever...

What were your exact words when you asked him to remove me from the GC stuff?

Were you specific or were you just saying 'erase him'?

We are still waiting on ITO's new leader to get his forum powers.  I PMed siremi about it but sometimes it can take a while.  He is welcome to go ahead and vote though.

and how long did it take for him to erase my membership after you asked it?

In absence of my rep, IMG (thought we already settled this) votes "no"

As often as you have said   "his vote has no meaning unless I agree, but it is his vote"...

Your last statement on this topic said:  "my advice to Aysle would be to vote to deny at this time entry into the GC for the corporation EOS"

That was not a vote, just another attempt to slow action on a topic.  If you have the vote, then vote!  Do not delay a vote because your 'pet' is not available.  Is that not the major reason that NHC was excommunicated?

The Sargasian Empire formally requests admission to the Galactic Council.

well, it has been two months...

I see a vote of NO from TGE,

There is a NON-VOTING opinion from the leader of IMG, but the voting rep has been absent for over 19 days (leading me to beieve that the voting element of IMG doesn't care one way or the other).

ITO seems to be following their perceived 'don't care enough to vote' status...

Therefore, this application is being considered by me to be 'on hold'...

Thank you for your consideration and please let me know when and if this vote is ever concluded (so that I may close my books).

this topic is now closed (even if I cannot lock one of my...)

still waiting...

thank you for your assistance.

...I learned a lot...

...topic closed...

why is it that you say you will chastize a miscreant, but you keep any penalty or sanction un-published and secret.

Are there really any sanctions, or is it more a 'slap-on-the-wrist',  , non-punishing punishment.

Are your words just made of paper, or is there iron in them?