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16  Corporation General Talk / Corporation Stance / Re: Standard for Discussion on: January 21, 2022, 06:47:54 PM
As neither SPQNR nor LOEP, and EOS seems to be amenable to negotiations to cease hostilities, it seems as if the differences are irreconcilable.

I understand that SPQNR still retains some degree of influence over LOEP, and the relationship between the two is cordial at worst. The fact that EOS has sided with SPQNR on this issue is, at best, disappointing. Hence, we will eliminate the policy of solely attacking SPQNR and LOEP, and revert to every-man-for-himself.

Because we offered a no-fault cessation to hostilities, the likes of which have been unceremoniously rejected, any further losses incurred by either party will not be accepted as damages under any future agreement.
17  Corporation General Talk / Corporation Stance / Re: Standard for Discussion on: January 19, 2022, 06:07:55 PM
Responses, red

The Empire is not supporting this.
The reasons are written in yellow.

quote:
"All corps currently involved in the conflict, particularly [LOEP] and [PF], renounce the right to piracy and the unprovoked attacking of ships. Piracy is allowed (by the rules) in the game. this is unenforceable. This is a civil matter. It does not concern the rules of the game, and instead creates "best practices" or a common guide to go by. In effect, this reverts to the status quo ante, without piracy. Consequences for violating this provision, therefore, concerns not the rulebook but the decisions made by other corps.

Operation Scorched Earth ceases, or at least ceases to apply to any member of any of the 10 largest corps. Discriminatory. You are saying hit the common folk  and leave the 'Elite' alone. The Empire rejects this. The minimum stated here is not intended to be discriminatory (the optimal case is a complete dissolution of Operation Scorched Earth). [PF] does not partake in Operation Scorched Earth.  Ultimately, this document serves more so as a bilateral or trilateral guideline, and is not meant to concern any individual outside of our Corps. Whether or not attacks continue elsewhere is beyond our mandate or concern. Your audience for this, therefore, is LOEP, not PF.
[PF] uses its military capabilities solely in pursuit of COM missions and any associated NPC missions, but reserves the right to use military force for self-defense purposes.Good for you, this has been Imperial practice since our founding years ago. Once again, this is meant to be an agreement between [SPQNR], [LOEP], and [PF]. While your opinion is appreciated, your Corp has little to no stake in this affair as you are already on relatively good terms (or at least friendly terms) with all Corps involved. Since you are not partaking in the conflict, any disarming agreement should not necessarily invite any consequence for your Corp. If you take issue to the morals of attacking new players or other piracy-based behavior, your audience is not with me, and does not relate to the substance of this Standard.
Hostilities between [LOEP], [SPQNR], and [PF] shall cease indefinitely, assuming no further provocations are undertaken.This topic would best be settled between PF and the rest of us. Is it a demand or an offer of Peace?I am not aware of an armed conflict between PF and EOS. I therefore do not understand the substance of the phrase "the rest of us". It is an offer.
The Mutual Mining Agreement is reinstated to full effect.The Empire has always respected this. I am aware of that. Once again, this is not meant for EOS. I am under the impression that, despite EOS compliance, the fact that many other Corps are currently not observing the Agreement would denigrate the significance of the former. In that sense, you should be advocating for the renewed adoption of the Agreement.

To summarize: PF is currently fighting a relatively limited traditional war against SPQNR and LOEP. LOEP, from my understanding, is waging all-out war against all new players and virtually 95% of the playerbase. The Treaty would serve the sole purpose of eliminating these conflicts. I don't quite see how EOS factors into the calculus, and would not see a reason to compel EOS to do anything.

This agreement is chiefly intended to be an offer extended to [SPQNR] and [LOEP]. Once again, while the opinion of EOS is respected and acknowledged, I find no way that this treaty would possibly affect EOS at all. The objective of this is to, at least in the primary stages, create optimal conditions for increased play by new players (even if that means they have to be within a large corp *at first*), such that there is greater incentive to develop and work on the game. In my opinion, destroying AG has no purpose. It will not invite SirEmi to resume development of the game, and is a massive waste of time for those partaking in these activities.

As a corp, we are not attacking nor targeting new players, but instead solely acting against those we have traditional conflicts with (SPQNR and LOEP). We have not touched an ounce of EOS property, and do not intend on doing so. Our goal, to reiterate, is to revert to the status quo ante, where piracy is frowned upon and newer members are given guidance and sanctuary within our Corps. We seek to revise the toxic climate, and instill a cleaner, more welcoming environment, with the ultimate end goal of incentivizing development on AG. I understand PF had engaged in various forms of piracy when our power ratings were <10M, but we are far larger than that, and practicing piracy nowadays would simply be a less extreme version of LOEP's activities.

Piracy will always be inevitable. As larger corps, let's not do it.
18  Corporation General Talk / Corporation Stance / Re: Standard for Discussion on: January 15, 2022, 11:29:54 PM
Mind you, my research capacity now is effectively much of SPQNR/LOEP's corp capacity squeezed into a single account...

Forgive my scepticism, but are you absolutely sure about that?

Can not and would not claim to, but in terms of corp capacity I must remind you that we did buy a majority of OREO's stock, so private capacities unaccounted for, the rest we have.
19  Corporation General Talk / Corporation Stance / Re: Standard for Discussion on: January 14, 2022, 12:46:52 AM
I'm not asking for a screenshot or background story - your tech level is still insignificant.

You're saying this war is no longer beneficial, so where are your ships? I will gladly spend APs to speed up the timer. I still have tens of billions to burn. 1



They are around all right, just variously pointed in some directions. If you're talking about solari donations, I will more than happily take them, but I'm not sure what you mean beyond that.



if you're asking for trouble... we're afflicted with a bad case of malaise for that type of stuff, I fear
20  Corporation General Talk / Corporation Stance / Re: Standard for Discussion on: January 13, 2022, 10:44:43 PM
Noting as how [PF] has now developed Mk 10,000+ MAUs and extraordinarily high-level shields...

Where are they? 1



Mind you, my research capacity now is effectively much of SPQNR/LOEP's corp capacity squeezed into a single account... most of my other corp members are now inactive..
21  Corporation General Talk / Corporation Stance / Re: Standard for Discussion on: January 08, 2022, 07:33:35 PM
So be it.

22  Corporation General Talk / Corporation Stance / Standard for Discussion on: January 08, 2022, 01:25:06 AM
Out of an abundance of compassion for all players in the game, the Pax Forti legislature has come to propose a disarming agreement.

Knowing that LOEP and SPQNR appear to be doing perfectly fine with (dropping COMs? No clue what they're up to) what they are currently doing right now, the extant situation is likely suitable for profit and gain for those corporations. That being said, other corporations, such as [EOS] and [SEC] appear, at minimum, to be marginally negatively affected by the conflict, and by the Scorched Earth policy pursued by [LOEP].

Thenceforth, in order to remedy the state of affairs in AG currently, the Pax Forti legislature is proposing a number of measures:

  • All corps currently involved in the conflict, particularly [LOEP] and [PF], renounce the right to piracy and the unprovoked attacking of ships.
  • Operation Scorched Earth ceases, or at least ceases to apply to any member of any of the 10 largest corps.
  • [PF] uses its military capabilities solely in pursuit of COM missions and any associated NPC missions, but reserves the right to use military force for self-defense purposes.
  • Hostilities between [LOEP], [SPQNR], and [PF] shall cease indefinitely, assuming no further provocations are undertaken.
  • The Mutual Mining Agreement is reinstated to full effect.

Noting as how [PF] has now developed Mk 10,000+ MAUs and extraordinarily high-level shields, this war is no longer beneficial to any party, and a return to peace would be most profitable to all. Even the prior concerns that [PF] as a pirate organization had too high of a technology status are now alleviated, if not by anything, by the fact that such technologies have been unlocked anyways. Whilst we share the disappointment in SirEmi's patent failure to continue updating and modernizing the game, we do not believe alienation of all new players is a suitable path to follow. Indeed, per our calculations, it is likely that such players as NoBrain made greater profits mining than in the current situation.

The issue of missing modules appears to be now moot. If the issue of funds or outstanding balances remains extant, payment plans, whether in QP or solari, may be arranged after a permanent armistice is concluded.


Per Sun Tzu,
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There has never been a protracted war from which a country has benefited.
23  General Talk / General Discussion / Re: SPQNR has gone mad... on: January 01, 2021, 11:09:53 AM
forgot to add [HALO] & [ACES]
24  General Talk / General Discussion / SPQNR has gone mad... on: December 10, 2020, 12:35:34 PM
SPQNR just declared war on virtually every corp in the game minus SSS, EOS, SEC, and TGE (although passive kos for the latter)...

must have lost their minds  laugh
that means [MAMM], [SCORP], [PF] (duh), [ORION], [[BOB]], and a running list of virtually every account registered between 1 November and 27 November...

 have fun... this is the so-called "noob protection corp" that had qualms with me attacking noobs years ago  12 12 pile of hypocrite trash...
25  General Talk / General Discussion / Re: Suggestion: Sol Safe Zone + Trade Hub on: December 03, 2020, 08:07:17 PM
So make Mars the trade hub?

I think that is his intention
26  General Talk / General Discussion / Re: What is Orion? on: December 02, 2020, 03:41:00 PM
it was conceived as an idea by our "friends" in SPQNR.

One of their members made away with the investments and hasn't been heard of since.



edit: he went to form his own corporation, omicron theta. He subsequently departed and has not been heard of since.
27  General Talk / General Discussion / Re: Suggestion: Sol Safe Zone + Trade Hub on: December 02, 2020, 03:30:44 PM
The essentially universal mining agreement for PTs (in the absence of SPQNR foolishness) can be found in their Mutual Mining Agreement.

I'm also going to agree to Mr. Hauser's conditions.
28  General Talk / General Discussion / Re: Suggestion: Sol Safe Zone + Trade Hub on: December 02, 2020, 03:25:34 PM
Except it's a suggestion for the playerbase not for the dev. Also messaging e is kinda pointless, I've learned from spaceo.

kinda noticed that I have

seen a yoda I have
29  General Talk / General Discussion / Re: Ningus and Zero Cerebellum Fracking Corporation... on: December 02, 2020, 03:04:49 AM
Playing dim and being underestimated is one of my favorite pastimes, and my dearest SPQNR alters seem to have learnt that the hard way...

Not to mention. SPQNR, is it that you can't afford your ship licenses?  laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh 12
30  General Talk / General Discussion / Ningus and Zero Cerebellum Fracking Corporation... on: December 02, 2020, 03:03:05 AM
You may need yourselves some teaching from a former veteran alter...
[LOEP] Admiraal Piet Hein (#4102)    3,160,793,528    (POSID - [SPQNR] Marcus Cruoningus)
[LOEP] Captain Harlock (#4482)    2,300,327,477    (POSID - [SPQNR] NoBrain Mining Inc)
[LOEP] Calico Jack (#11665)    272,317,780       
[LOEP] CaptTeach (#13437)    44,374,066    
[LOEP] Ching Shih (#13141)    1,205,287    


and I can say with nearly full confidence that "Ching Shih" is RegnadKcin:

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"Lol his # is lower than yours, and his power higher..."

LOL! You have no idea what my power is! But it will be higher than yours, soon!

it's clear this is writing in literally the same format as Rag-Nad ("Maggots")...



Let's further do some deconstructing:
[LOEP] Admiraal Piet Hein (#4102)    3,160,793,528    (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piet_Pieterszoon_Hein (pirate) AND https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piet_Hein_(scientist) - MC names his ships after scientists and statesmen, like the Adolf Hitler, the Albert Einstein, Galileo, etc.)
[LOEP] Captain Harlock (#4482)    2,300,327,477    (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Harlock - space pirate)
[LOEP] Calico Jack (#11665)    272,317,780       (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calico_Jack - English pirate from 1680s-1720s)
[LOEP] CaptTeach (#13437)    44,374,066        (pseudonym of Blackbeard)
[LOEP] Ching Shih (#13141)    1,205,287            (Chinese pirate - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ching_Shih and - get this Rag-Nad - former prostitute  laugh laugh)
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