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 81 
 on: April 12, 2022, 04:33:52 AM 
Started by Raptor - Last post by NoBrain
But if blocking station slots is the problem, that is an easy issue to resolve. Let us buy the deposits at planets or moons where we are blocking the station slots.

This way, the orbit isn't blocked from the person who owns the deposit.

Win-Win situation.

No the solution is to stop blocking all station slots..

 82 
 on: April 12, 2022, 04:19:11 AM 
Started by Raptor - Last post by NoBrain
I must admit I am very frustrated with the direction this scenario is headed.

In the past I admired how the larger players in AG spent considerable time and resources in helping the smaller players learn and grow. It was a real community, and numerous times I and others remarked that it would be great if in real life the 'large players'  would be as much into helping the smaller players as the players in AG were.

Now it appears that it is us, looking at the recent examples provided by the 'large players' in real life and emulating them.

As per the comments from NoBrain - here are my thoughts:
1. "All I see is just bend for SPQNR.. and recive payment to look the other way.."

I don't understand what you think we are asking you to 'bend' or 'look the other way' for.   The COM strategy we are using now was introduced to SPQNR by Stargazer almost 2 years ago prior to the split off of LOEP.   He even assigned anyone in spqnr who asked,  several COMs that he had initiated himself, just before they were due, so that we could fight the coms and have an idea if how simple and profitable it was.   I don't ever recall anyone saying, at that time, that it was an exploit that was against any AstroGalaxy rules.    Although numerous spqnr members were content to mine rather than do COMs at that time,  Cakers ocasional attacks pushed more of us to use that COM strategy over time rather than risking the loss of expensive mining assetts.

The only practice that I recall having had numerous discussion in spqnr  as being 'not permitted in AG' was the use of automation scripts.   If anyone was/is 'looking the other way' it was/is all us non-scripters.  Many of us including Gildavinor (now in LOEP) openly stated that we would not get into scripting because we felt it was either not permitted, or at the very least not fair to other players.   Admitedly, we were more than willing to 'look the other way' in regards to the PT hunting scripts because, when there was a universal database available for the sale and purchase of mining claims, we could all truly say it was a win/win benefit for ALL players, including those outside spqnr.   I admired the considerable energy/effort that NoBrain put into developing the PT collecting and listing efforts, and that was one of those very helpful things  that I mentioned in the intro above.

2. "We can't make any treaties as we a(re) pirates in a pirate corp.."
Just because you are 'pirates' does not mean you cant have a treaty.   look up 'Treaty of Tripoli 1796'.   If fact 'privateers' were basically just pirates that were commisioned by a country, and had made agreements to only attack specific targets, or to not attack specific targets.  The normal aim of piracy is to make quick riches with minimal effort.   Yet when offered a way to make an easy 1000 QP per month with little to no effort on your part, you turn that down.  That does not sound like what a pirate or privateer would do...

Yes, I admit we were also willing to overlook all the automated hunting/killing scripts that NoBrain made to protect players against pirates.   Similar to the PT hunting scripts mentioned above, I considered it as something that would allow players both inside and outside spqnr to be able to enjoy the game more by not loseing as much of their mining equipment to persistant pirates like Caker and other players at the time.   Before the split, we had lobbied for SirEmi to implement some changes that would at least make it possible for a player to counter attack or track an attacker, to at least have some balance in the odds against fighting a pirate; but to no avail.

The actions of Caker (in piracy and also in hacking into inactive player accounts), as well as the lack of development interest by Sir Emi were the main reasons LOEP formed.   There were several objectives of LOEP.  One was to fight Caker, and give him a taste of his own medicine without being encumbered by the diplomatic process of SPQNR.    Another objective was to attract the attention of Sir-Emi in the hopes of him making changes to Astro Galaxy that many players had been asking for.   To do this NoBrain wanted to make AG unplayable by newer players and thus reduce the potential for income to  Sri Emi from players purchasing QP to get VIP status.    Although the majority in spqnr did agree with the goals that NB (and others) had; we did not agree with the method that was being proposed, and voted against such a move; causing NB and others who agreed with his proposed tactics to split off from spqnr to form loep.

In regards to those LOEP objectives:  It appears from comments/proposals made on the AG board that Caker has seen the light and now realizes that piracy by large players against smaller players detracts from the overall enjoyment of the game by the majority of players.   That is one positive accomplishment that I give full credit to NoBrain in accomplishing.  Unfortunately,  it also appears that NB is now intending to take over Cakers role and detract from the gameplay of the majority of other players by, among other things, dumping large coms indiscriminantly throughout the galaxy, especially in places where other players already have COMs in progress.  

As for the the objective of inspiring Sir-Emi to do some game development; I did not agree on the tactic but I did have some small hope that it might work.  After almost 2 years with loep working on that strategy with no disernable result, I have given up on that hope.

I expect that if we all want to continue to enjoy playing AG we will all need to work together and come up with an agreement that is acceptable to the majority within the current AG implementation without the expectation that we will ever see enhancements made.   Maybe after 2 years, it is time for us all to 'let it go' and return at least somewhat  to how things were pre Caker/LOEP.

3. Choice is still up SPQNR..
 What 'choice' are you talking about?    So far the only choices I see is to either quit playing AG or put up with your ever increasing use of scripting which over time continues to expand and make the playing of Astro Galaxy more and more difficult by anyone other than those who are willing to bend/bow to wishes of the biggest bully.   Although an spqnr member has offered significant financial incentive to NB to allow the game to remain playable to no avail, I have not seen any other choices offered by NB/loep.

If we continue down this path, at some point the only player that will be active is NoBrain.   It will not really even be him playing, it will just be his robo scripts.    Will anyone be willing or even able to save mankind from extinction by a hostile artificial intelligence in a post-apocalyptic future? (Terminator - Rise of the Machines).

The choice is to leave a free Station slot or not...

Quite simple..
If all station slots are blocked With COMs, I Just add one the the stack.. (If I have one)

I also want to play the game you know.. or I had stopped a long time ago..
But SPQNR have blocked more and more system with Unmatted COM's (Dark COMs)

I had to leave SPQNR, because the proposed solution to a problem also had a ultimatum.
It was not supported by the Senate and our path had to end..

 83 
 on: April 11, 2022, 05:23:20 PM 
Started by Raptor - Last post by NoBrain
Are you saying you haven't dropped a large com and a small com on HDU A1? If you say you haven't, I will accept your word.
2022-03-19 08:17:18 was the last drop on S/HDU 27744 A1

2022-04-01 10:50:02.503187
2022-06-24 09:38:06.000000
Q (2,-3)
HDU 27744
S/HDU 27744 A1
23
145
23
0
1
2022-03-19 08:17:18.000000

 84 
 on: April 11, 2022, 05:02:48 PM 
Started by Raptor - Last post by NoBrain
I restart all my coms at least a week beforehand. For the past year, when Harlock dropped little coms on me, it was only an irritation.

Now, for the first time, you've dropped a com on me that I can't fight.

I now have no reason to continue fighting coms, and my only motivation to remain in AG is to expend my entire energy on totally f**king up your game.

I have two trillion solars in the bank and no need to earn any income for at least couple of years.

I hope people reading this thread appreciate how I've tried to be reasonable and done everything I can to avoid conflict and persuade Harlock to play fair.

Harlock, you now have 24 hours to agree that you will no longer drop any coms on me or else I will give up fighting coms completely, go dark and devote my entire energies and considerable resources to f**king up everything you do.

You can attack my ships in the next 24 hours, but I can rebuild everything instantly without it touching my savings.

Please note: I am not speaking for SPQNR, but for myself only. I am happy to leave SPQNR if it means you focus your f**kery on me rather than other members of SPQNR.


I think some one is using the conflict and my Name..
My COM collecting ship only has Total power of 321,286,928.. But just blame me anyway is easier..

 85 
 on: April 10, 2022, 02:57:09 PM 
Started by Raptor - Last post by Raptor
I had a couple of stalemates, but all my fault. Mis-calculated the required power (manually  19).

 86 
 on: April 10, 2022, 01:39:18 PM 
Started by Raptor - Last post by Raptor
But be aware they're tougher cookies than you'd expect at first sight.  19

 87 
 on: April 10, 2022, 10:21:52 AM 
Started by Raptor - Last post by Raptor
Friendly reminder to LOEP to avoid their all-famous God complex...

[blah blah]
We hold all the cards here

Pot. Kettle. Black.


But I guess you just had to rear your inbred head.

 88 
 on: April 09, 2022, 06:18:51 PM 
Started by Raptor - Last post by NoBrain
You have already committed numerous acts of war against us, and we are trying to be magnanimous by drawing a line under that, so we can resolve this peacefully, to the economic benefit of both of us.

Are you interested in negotiating a settlement, or are you bent on war?

Settelment you say...

All I see is just bend for SPQNR.. and recive payment to look the other way..

I'll not do so...

We can't make any treaties as We a pirates in a pirate corp..

Choice is still up SPQNR..


PM from Herod.
>[SPQNR] Herod(#8449)
>06-Mar-2022 09:08
>
>
>
>You are a trader as well as a pirate. If you weren't a trader, you wouldn't have a mining agreement or expect people to respect your markers.
>
>As a pirate you can't have a treaty, but as a trader you can have a private trading agreement. I am offering to pay you 1000QP per month (starting today and on the first of every >month) if you don't collect any coms or >start/drop any coms in 1,-3 or 2,-3.

 89 
 on: April 09, 2022, 05:19:13 PM 
Started by Raptor - Last post by caker18
Friendly reminder to LOEP to avoid their all-famous God complex...

PF has committed to ceasing hostilities against virtually all major realistic targets... this LOEP has not done, and is even turning its back against former friends...

Is peace that difficult? You make your decisions.


I personally find it quite remarkable that LOEP is so diehard in their attempts to get us to not receive any revenue, that they are willing to piss off SPQNR

They know this is counterproductive as it will force PF into piracy, instead of generating revenue appropriately. They also know that this behavior disrupts SPQNR, and finally they're aware of the fact that if SPQNR is sufficiently disgruntled there is a nonzero probability that they might requisition our services in disposing of LOEP (personally, I find this to be quite the symbiotic relationship - we don't need to waste resources on intel, SPQNR can push LOEP's attention back to us, LOEP can get the worst of both worlds)

And they wish to do what exactly? We hold all the cards here - most of us are on and off with AG, and so we are effectively free to do as we please when we please. It is impossible to get us "off" AG - we might just come back three months later, trash some of your "bases", and go off again. Our research framework is concentrated within single-payer, single-producer research, which gets us leaps and bounds ahead of distributing corp resources in terms of science and production.

 90 
 on: April 09, 2022, 12:43:29 PM 
Started by Raptor - Last post by NoBrain
CH(NB)  I was buying and mining those PT from the Deposit list.Now i can't enter Deposit List(probably you changed password).You have no lose from my stars.I always payed.If u want to mine some PT on my teritory just let me now.If u give me access to deposit list i will continue with buying those PT and u will have no loss.

And yes before u attack Stations without ship there(i mystake for 1  day when the looter ships go[and u know that that is my stations]) BUT before 2 days u attack 3 different planets with stations WITH MY SHIPS there.

zero power stations.. You had collected the loot..

Captain Harlock   Pirate looter   ARJ 2288->S/ARJ 2288 G3    xxxxxx   0   0.00% / 0.00%   05-Apr-2022 17:20
Captain Harlock   Pirate looter   ARJ 2288->Alpha ARJ 2288   xxxxxx   0   0.00% / 0.00%   05-Apr-2022 17:19

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