Sargas Oil Jupiter Station

[Dadds]

and before Sargas gets all huffy and locks another post up, here is a reminder of Raphael's recent historical posting which his short term lapse of memory seems to have forgotten.

The Syndicate will definitely not allow the members of the GC to set up fuel stations in 0,0. We will aim to destroy that station and attack any ship that orbits it.


If it is not from the GC though, I might even use that station.  laugh

Now its is my understanding that PMI are a part of the GC. Another lame threat Raphael? Or are there backdoor sweetheart dealings?
There are a lot of ships now orbiting a GC membered station. So come and attack them!

[sargas]

And Dadds, people will not listen to you if you just reply to someones elses topic.

If you have someting to say, start your own thread...

I apologize for this.   It was said without thought.

What I meant to say was "Why are you so interested in this topic when there are important GC matters to tend to?"

[JamJulLison]

Raph let me just say this.  Even if the GC were to ever be disbanded, it wouldn't take you off our radar. If the GC were to be disbanded there are only 2 corps I have real interest of having NAPs with. That is IMG and ITO.  The only reason NHC still has a NAP with us is because they are GC and because of their former leaders who I considered friends.  If there is no NAP, that means they are fair game including your corp.  You have not given me sufficient reason to even want to sign a NAP with you. Not to mention your corp is just you and a semi-active player. All your corp ships are used by you rather then being divided among your members.  Hell a lot of our corp ships are designed for use to help weaker people learn to become better players and teach them how to learn to do stuff for themselves.  All you are doing is using the Corp system to help yourself.  Also if the GC ever does disband what supporters you might have in Sol corp will suffer to because attacking in Sol would no longer be banned.  The GC was formed to help keep the larger corps in check with each other and to help out smaller players.  Look at all the stuff sitting around Sol right now. Before the GC you would be lucky to find anything in Sol cause stuff would get wiped out quickly.  We may not always get along.  Some of us might argue and fight.  But in the end your still going to be looking down at the barrers of our weapons.  Even before the GC was formed we wouldn't have tolerated the behavior you have shown in the past.  As it stands now PMI doesn't see this as a war like Dadds does.  We don't let it disrupt our every day activities.  But that doesn't mean we won't go after your stuff whenever we can get the chance. 

[raphael]

The Syndicate doesn't really feel obligated to explain its actions to a very hostile corp.

The Syndicate however has been waiting for another "strong" station to be set up by IMG, but still none is in sight. IMG probably got scared! 

Raph let me just say this.  Even if the GC were to ever be disbanded, it wouldn't take you off our radar. If the GC were to be disbanded there are only 2 corps I have real interest of having NAPs with. That is IMG and ITO.  The only reason NHC still has a NAP with us is because they are GC and because of their former leaders who I considered friends.  If there is no NAP, that means they are fair game including your corp.  You have not given me sufficient reason to even want to sign a NAP with you. Not to mention your corp is just you and a semi-active player. All your corp ships are used by you rather then being divided among your members.  Hell a lot of our corp ships are designed for use to help weaker people learn to become better players and teach them how to learn to do stuff for themselves.  All you are doing is using the Corp system to help yourself.  Also if the GC ever does disband what supporters you might have in Sol corp will suffer to because attacking in Sol would no longer be banned.  The GC was formed to help keep the larger corps in check with each other and to help out smaller players.  Look at all the stuff sitting around Sol right now. Before the GC you would be lucky to find anything in Sol cause stuff would get wiped out quickly.  We may not always get along.  Some of us might argue and fight.  But in the end your still going to be looking down at the barrers of our weapons.  Even before the GC was formed we wouldn't have tolerated the behavior you have shown in the past.  As it stands now PMI doesn't see this as a war like Dadds does.  We don't let it disrupt our every day activities.  But that doesn't mean we won't go after your stuff whenever we can get the chance. 

Jam, even when I had less than 1M total power, I never really cared if I'm targeted or not. Not you, your corp, or anyone in the whole galaxy can stop me from growing stronger. Your post as a whole is useless and will not get you anywhere.  You could've also just sent me that message privately because (1) the WHOLE POST is not really relevant to the thread's topic and (2) it is only directed to me. Maybe you can properly moderate your own post, mighty moderator?

[JamJulLison]

The messed up battle system is the reason why a person can not really be stopped from growing.  Something needs done with the timers and ships need to be able to be destroyed. Maybe just have a low chance of it. A chance that increases if you run safety override.  That would be pretty realistic and would make PVP better. As for the post not be relevent.  It kinda is.  It has to do with this whole situation here.

[raphael]

Ships need to be destroyed? That will never happen. LOL If it does happen, I would welcome it then because I could destroy 99% of all ships in the game.

People keep whining about how the game is messed up--why don't you all just deal with it? play another game maybe? Just because some have become has-beens, some are hell bent on changing the game. Why don't you all just develop your own games? Haha

Its good to know that you somehow see it as relevant. I can pretty much reply anything in any thread now. 

[Dadds]

LOL you cant even destroy the few ships hanging out at Jupiter. Start with them before you start counting 99% of all ships. Anyway Sargas, IMG with its Galactic Corp laws have arrived to save the day and run of that no good scallywag pretender, Raphael. This may be a good place to set up a fuel station or 4 lol.

[JamJulLison]

Raph with your mostly shield and marine style ships, your ships would be the ones mostly likely being destroyed.  It isn't like we don't locate you all the time doing COMs.  Just a lot of the time it is a wasted effort for PMI to go after COMs. Not to mention I have been busy at my new job.  I do sometimes hand over this info to Dadds though.  If it was possible to destroy ships you could be sure I would be doing just that when we locate your stuff and no amount of QP spent would be too great.

[sargas]

LOL you cant even destroy the few ships hanging out at Jupiter. Start with them before you start counting 99% of all ships. Anyway Sargas, IMG with its Galactic Corp laws have arrived to save the day and run of that no good scallywag pretender, Raphael. This may be a good place to set up a fuel station or 4 lol.

I set up a fuel station in the same place where another one was previously deployed.  You started an attack timer on it.

I will say this one time, so I hope you understand it:

I am not working with Rafe on anything!   The station was set up to not only bring in revenue, but also to see what other parties would do.  I found that the outlaw will leave it alone (and purchase fuel), but the ally will attack it.

[Dadds]

It got your attention though haha. (i didnt set the counter btw, but we have already discussed that before i read this forum)

[Jazzbob]

@Sargas: I understand your point and loved your station(even it was there only a few days)

Maybe I can buy your high quality fuel again after the war on jupiter :-)

[Dadds]

The battle for Jupiter is to totally liberate SOL from one type of overbearing bully to a better trend of bully haha. Long story short, expect a fuel station or two set up here, its supply and funding and defence will be provided by IMG. Others are welcome to open up their own fuel station in tandem with ours, provided you can defend it of course against other elements. IMG installments will be defended and a permanent source of alternate fuel in the near future. Just need to de-louse the area a little before business is set up. The "bug-sprayer" is in position and set to exterminate all bugs

[raphael]

Everyone, let me just say this. The Syndicate doesn't care if GC gets disbanded or not: they are useless before so their disbandment won't change anything. Their rules are mostly to restrict players (not that they are any good at it, LOL), and are more like taking away a pilot's freedom rather than somehow assuring it. The Syndicate is also currently manufacturing 96 Adv Shields Mk CC for its war against the GC. We have set the tax corp at 0.01% for a week now so we can get an idea how much we really earn. As for corp ships, they are not assigned to members so Admiral Raphael can maximize their usage; but it's not like we don't help our members. We provide advanced modules and QPs for free to our members as well. The Syndicate is also willing to help new players outside the Syndicate by leaving them alone and offering quick solars/QP in exchange for some info. All in all, the Syndicate also doesn't really think anyone in the game can dictate what it should and shouldn't do. We're here to have fun, and we sure are having a good time!

And yes, as per our wise moderator JamJulLison, that statement can be considered relevant to the Sargas Oil Jupiter Station thread, so no worries! Come and post your own random thoughts even if it doesn't talk about stations and even if it's just meant for one pilot!

[JamJulLison]

Actually Raph only the GC members are required to follow our charter.  Not people outside the GC. Though we would prefer it if others follow it, we don't require it.  We aren't trying to push anyone around.  We also try to help newer members.  The only people who are restricted some are GC members themselves and that is for the good of other players.  If it wasn't for the GC I probably would be routinely cleaning out Sol myself. You see the GC keeps us bigger players in check. Something which is needed.  Otherwise non-gc members could suffer.  Dads likely would have rampaged by now on any suspected pirate.  PMI likely would have continued some raiding in Sol and making life hell on everyone.  Life has improved for everyone outside the GC since we put these restrictions on ourselves.  So what do we gain from the GC since we restrict ourselves, friendship and trust among each other.  Maybe not a lot of trust there but we are working on that.  We also don't usually have to worry about one of us trying to blow up the other.  So it is kinda a double edged sword for us. I agreed to add you to the GC outlaw list because of your threats on Sol. You threatened that Sol would burn if we added you to the outlaw list.  That threat is why we had to agree to add you.   But think of this. You never liked the GC. But how do you think it would have been if the GC wasn't around? Dadds would have been all over you right away without restrictions.  PMI wouldn't have hunted you, but we still would have been hitting you at every turn anyways.   You would have had pressure on you that much sooner.  It could have been harder on you.   I am not saying the GC is perfect or that we don't got problems.  Cause we do.  We have a lot of issues to work out.  It might not even work out.  But if it doesn't it will things that much worse for everyone else outside of the GC.

[sargas]

The battle for Jupiter is to totally liberate SOL from one type of overbearing bully to a better trend of bully haha. Long story short, expect a fuel station or two set up here, its supply and funding and defence will be provided by IMG. Others are welcome to open up their own fuel station in tandem with ours, provided you can defend it of course against other elements. IMG installments will be defended and a permanent source of alternate fuel in the near future. Just need to de-louse the area a little before business is set up. The "bug-sprayer" is in position and set to exterminate all bugs

Is this the reason IMG attacked my station at Jupiter?  For a fuel monopoly?

Please deploy your stations to the IMG planet (Saturn).

Jupiter is currently under a PMI protectorate.  

Please remove your stations as per our charter agreement.



(edit because -

As the mining boss of PMI, I will tell all y'all that a profit producing station (a station that is placed only for the purpose of buying and selling commodities) is to be considered the same as a mine or harvester.)