I feel like this whole thing has been blown way out of proportion... Rostin I did say it was the start of a pattern, a start. Now if it doesn't happen again then that pattern is broken and goes no where and it doesn't matter, if it happens again then there is some reason to suspect it might not be coincidence all the time, that is all I meant. While I personally would have handled things differently than Jam is I don't fault him for it considering he is going out of his way to minimize the damage done to whomever drops a COM on him so that he is just sending a message and not taking advantage of this in order to deal some kind of massive blow to your corp or any of it's memebers.
Personally Raptor I can understand your situation. I would guess that the whole "jake" matter has made Jam much less inclined to take you at your word and I can't blame him for that considering how things went down. Trust is easy to lose and quite hard to gain. I will take your word for it, but certainly if it happened again I would think twice before doing so again given what went on. I hope you can understand what I mean.
Btw last I checked there is a lot more to a corp than just it's rankings. I would kindly ask that you refrain from saying that your corp will "surpass us in everyway" in the future Rostin as I take personal offense to that when you don't know what goes on in TGE. You want to pass us on the leaderboard that is fine, but don't go saying or should I say implying that the members of TGE aren't as good as your own corp. I understand things are getting a little heated but still, let us not go insulting people just because of that.
Torh, I guess there wasn't much of a history between you so my bad on that, it just seemed like there was from how Jam talked was all.
Really? Why don't you tell that to your own leader Fenix, because he and Joolz both seem to think that I somehow recruit players of a lesser caliber than TGE does. I didn't say anything about TGE's members; I had said mine were the best because that is how a parent talks about its offspring. When I say "surpass" I mean in terms of total power, membership, tech, and all that. I don't think any player is worse than anyone else. You misunderstand my self-worth for undue criticism. The only people here I criticize are JJL and Joolz, and you have seen the hypocrisy and arrogance that they continue to project
I don't have to tell Jam anything, he knows how I feel about things most of the time and honestly most of the time we have the same opinion about what goes on around AG. Even if I did tell him to lay off, whether or not he would listen to me is an entirely different matter. As for Joolz, he has his own way of doing things. We have talked before about how he handled past events and I know you remember that discusion, I don't really have anything further to say about him at this time.
The only thing I believe Jam and Joolz really meant about your members Rostin is that they are less experienced than the members of TGE and ITO, this is simply a fact. It most likely does contribute to mistakes like these being made, the more new players you invite the larger your corp becomes and there are more chances for these mistakes to happen. Over time that might result in your corp establishing a bad reputation. Personally I would do things differently but that is me and you are you. I believe that you can spread yourself too thin in this game (Much like Rome spread it's forces too thin and ultimately collapsed btw) and end up getting no where. I would take more time to develop the people you already have before taking in more new players that ultimately need more resources dedicated to them to help them develop. Honestly idk if TGE does recruit at all anymore, people just end up there through connections with Jam or somebody else, others apply because it is a powerful corp. As you know I ended up there from the former.
If you truly intended no disrespect toward the rest of us at TGE then as I said to torh, my bad. Things in here have been getting a little heated and I am not above getting emotional about it myself. Speaking of which, Torh I didn't really imply that you had wronged him I just thought that something had gone on between the two of you in the past which Jam didn't appreciate that is all. Obviously that either wasn't the case or Jam forgot/forgave it so again my bad on that.