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« Reply #45 on: January 29, 2014, 03:42:56 AM » |
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for the restitution, i recommend the loss of replacement cost (previously stated at $4M+), plus $1M for loss of incomes and time in rebuilding. For the GC imposed penalty for breaking one of its own (and written by the accused) laws; I recommend a suspended sentence of no less than 3 months to be served. In that time should Jam-Jul Lison again breach our codes and laws, to be immediately and summarily dispelled from the GC office. Also, Jam-Jul should be ordered to make a formal public apology to the plaintiff, as well as a formal apology to the GC for bringing our organisation into disrepute, which should also include the general community for those who may consider any "loss in faith" toward what the Galactic Council is all about. Other optional punishments could include some community service, to assist a newer player to get a help along in the game. I draw upon several considerations when suggesting this penalty. 1. That the act was similar to "a crime of passion" as done out of frustration and; 2 The fact that the accused is a senior founding member of the Galactic Council and therefore should not be above the law, but more respecting of its rules than a new member would ordinarily be held accountable to. 3. That there appears to be some amiable moves by each party to reach terms regarding the initial loss of PMI corporate properties. Court costs are done "PRO-BONO" this time, however should I be called upon to make another ruling against one of our own, i will consider court costs as "time lost" outside of my normal working duties lol This is my finding in the case. Should anyone have any better ideas, more lenient, less lenient, please post them or PM them to me ASAP, or I will consider my final statement here to be an acceptance by all and to make it a decree. That is all. I await my colleagues and jury on final agreement to its ruling
the mods I received have been accepted as compensation, the extra penalty has not been paid, and JJL refuses to honor it.
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« Reply #46 on: January 29, 2014, 03:47:39 AM » |
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I included the additional pay in the cost it took to make those mods that I sent to Sargas. Sargas wants to go by the resale value. I am going by the build cost.
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« Reply #47 on: January 29, 2014, 03:49:27 AM » |
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JJL, please keep your comments to yourself until after the GC responds to this.
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« Reply #48 on: January 29, 2014, 03:57:59 AM » |
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JJL, please keep your comments to yourself until after the GC responds to this.
You mean I am not allowed to defend myself? My case is very clear. With what I paid covered both your damages and the GC penalty I was ordered to pay. As far as I am concerned I don't owe you a thing over then that ordered apology I am supposed to give. Which I will give now. I am sorry I blew up your station at Jupiter.
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« Reply #49 on: January 29, 2014, 04:00:08 AM » |
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You do not have to answer to me, you need to discuss the GC imposed penalty with the GC.
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« Reply #50 on: January 29, 2014, 04:03:38 AM » |
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You do not have to answer to me, you need to discuss the GC imposed penalty with the GC.
Fine then. Honored members of the GC. I have paid him the additional penalty you ordered me to pay him. I included it in the cost of the modules I built for Sargas. So he got an amount in cost not only equal to what I owed him in damaged but also the additional solars I was ordered to pay.
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« Reply #51 on: January 30, 2014, 07:28:53 AM » |
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Honored members of the GC. I have paid him the additional penalty you ordered me to pay him. I included it in the cost of the modules I built for Sargas. So he got an amount in cost not only equal to what I owed him in damaged but also the additional solars I was ordered to pay. OK @ Sargas. The cost you quoted in losses was $4M+. How did you come by this figure? Was that value based on what you would get on the re-sell of said modules, or is it the cost of total replacement of modules? (feel free to post module type, class and quantity to validate your claim if you feel it is needed) @JJL: Please provide the GC with the module type, class and quantity you traded out as recompense as per GC directives. The directive was initially issued as a recommendation, which has been accepted as a directive due to no further input from the GC peers sitting in judgement. I await the final counts from each party before deliberating. That is all.
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« Reply #52 on: January 30, 2014, 08:05:11 AM » |
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all I have is the report that started this inquiry:
Station MK VI $280,000
M3 Resource Monetary worth
292 Nickel $4694 59 Danbaite 4838 19 Aluminum 1520 4 Gold 1560 2475 Taenite 262659 654 Cabriite 209280 7856 Mercury 644192 213 Iron 156 54 Lead 3348 689 Moissanite 1033500 72 Oxygen 3600 2303 Bromine 635628 17000 Fuel 51000 5000 Medicine 30000 450 Diamond 945000 4110975
This is the only record of my losses and represent only what JJL managed to pick off my bones. There was a greater loss, but all I can prove are the material he scavanged from the station plus 800+ captive EoS civilians.
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« Reply #53 on: January 30, 2014, 09:17:02 AM » |
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What about your cargo modules to hold all that stuf?
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« Reply #54 on: January 30, 2014, 09:42:34 AM » |
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Like JJL, I didn't inventory them. All I am reporting are the proven losses. The actual cost would be much higher, but I can not just say there was some modules, because I still don't know how many of anything is considered 'some' (is it like grapes in a bunch?).
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« Reply #55 on: January 30, 2014, 12:13:11 PM » |
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You have the quantity in m3 that was stolen, if I add well it is: 37140 m3. Those m3 could not have no container!
cost of cargo to contain those 37140 m3: MK 1483 cost 1,874,512 cost of ADV cargo to contain those 37140 m3: MK 493 cost 4,171,766
Make you choice, did you had ADV cargo or simple cargo, do you remember?
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« Reply #56 on: January 30, 2014, 12:21:47 PM » |
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my stations contain adv cargos, while my ships carry some high level standard cargos. My tech level is MK LXX adv. cargo. the only cargo carried was 17000 fuel, 5000 meds, and 450 diamonds (22,450 total). I know those figures because I had just restocked the station.
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« Reply #57 on: January 30, 2014, 01:11:37 PM » |
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Since the game is linear we apply the Cross-multiplication rule:
ADV cargo, 22450 m3: 4171766 / 37140 * 22450 = 2,521,706 solars
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« Reply #58 on: January 30, 2014, 03:58:17 PM » |
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I made and gave him 6 MK 100 advance cargos. Cost is $846,200 each. So the total value is 5,077,200. I might consider making him 1 more advanced cargo MK 100 but that is it. Though considering his losses aren't even properly reported he is lucky to have gotten what he did.
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« Reply #59 on: January 30, 2014, 04:09:47 PM » |
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they are not worth $846,200 to me. I can only get $3,150.000 total ($525,000 each).
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